Quoting Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> Can philosophers say what consciousness is?
> No
> 
> Can philosophers say what mind is?
> No
> 
> Even apprentice scientists know that if you can not ask your questions
> properly you can not answer them. I think science is asking and answering
> meaningful questions about what kinds of critters we are. They are telling
> us how we got here and what we are doing. 
> 
> You on the other hand don't seem to like the answers and so you make up more
> childish questions. But scientists confine their professional work to
> meaningfully phrased questions and are not "struggling" to answer yours. It
> is not so much that they are telling you not to ask questions; they are just
> saying don't ask ones that don't make sense.

Your attitude reminds me of the following:

"The philosophy of oops, no matter how sophisticated and adult it may on 
occasion
appear -- its modern names and numbers are legion, from positivism to scientific
materialism, from linguistic analysis to historical materialism, from naturalism
to empiricism -- always come down to the same basic answer, namely, "Don't ask."

"The question itself . . . is said to to be confused, pathological, nonsensical,
or infantile. To stop asking such silly or confused questions is, they all
maintain, the mark of maturity, the sign of growing up in the cosmos.

"I don't think so. I think the 'answer' these 'modern and mature' disciplines 
give--
namely, oops! (and therefore, 'Don't ask!' -- is about as infantile a response
as the human condition could possibly offer." 

-- Introduction, "Sex, Ecology, Spirituality," Ken Wilber    














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