Case This is a very narrow view. There are questions science has no way to answer, this does not mean it does not have answers. You appear only to be interested in the answers science can give. I too take a keen interest in science but would not take your narrow view. To say so confidently that science 'explains' is to overstate what it is able to tell us. It think it would be fairer (although also unfair, but less unfair than your view) that science only describes. Explains is an overstatement.
David M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Case" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Heads or tails? >> [Platt] >> Which begs the question, "How does mind emerge from the mindless?" >> Science >> is still struggling with the answer wouldn't you agree? >> >> [Case] >> No. > > "If the world consists only of patterns of mind and patterns of matter, > what > is the relationship between the two? If you read the hundreds of volumes > of > philosophy available on this matter you may conclude that nobody knows -or > at least knows well enough to convince everybody else. There is the > materialist school that says reality is all matter, which creates mind. > There is the idealist school that says it is all mind, which creates > matter. > There is the positivist school which says this argument could go on > forever; > drop the subject." (Lila, 12) > > I agree with Pirsig. Nobody knows well enough to convince everybody else, > including many scientists. > > "Consciousness is widely viewed as the last frontier of science. Modern > science may have split the atom and solved the mystery of life, but it has > yet to explain the source of conscious feelings." -- Adopted from > "Introducing Consciousness" by > David Papineau and Howard Selina, Icon Books > > http://www.21stcentury.co.uk/science/consciousness.asp > > [Case] > Does science explain how organic systems develop from inorganic systems? > Yes > > Does science explain how the nervous system works? > Yes > > Does science show how the nervous system reacts under various conditions? > Yes > > Can science explain what range of external stimulation will excite the > senses? > Yes > > Can philosophers say what consciousness is? > No > > Can philosophers say what mind is? > No > > Even apprentice scientists know that if you can not ask your questions > properly you can not answer them. I think science is asking and answering > meaningful questions about what kinds of critters we are. They are telling > us how we got here and what we are doing. > > You on the other hand don't seem to like the answers and so you make up > more > childish questions. But scientists confine their professional work to > meaningfully phrased questions and are not "struggling" to answer yours. > It > is not so much that they are telling you not to ask questions; they are > just > saying don't ask ones that don't make sense. > > > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
