Hi David,
[David M] What is surprising about life is that it seems to set off evolving again even if chance causes a big wipe out. How often life evolves on other planets from the inorganic we don't yet know. [Ron] I keep wondering if it is litereally evoloving in the way the term means to progress where progress tends to elude toward an end result or is it continuous adaption to the DQ du jour? You know, semper fi? Maybe it is not so much evolution as a projection of Dynamic quality. We concieve of living organisms as stabile entities which "adapt" or respond to the environment where perhaps it may be viewed as Changing 'with' it's environment. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Heads or tails? > > [David M] > > I do not think the fact that change can be destructive helps much to > understand the creative capacities this universe clearly exhibits. Back > to the excluded middle again. > > [Ron] > Please elaborate, I don't quite get what it is you are saying then. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:48 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] Heads or tails? > > >> >> [David M] >> You old skeptic, lucky you were not >> around for the big bang, would you have >> ever believed we could have got here? >> >> [Ron] >> Our evolution is largely the result of geologic and cosmic fortune. A >> celestrial impact or two, >> and who knows? If the impact theorized to have wiped out the dinosaurs >> would have never happened >> I hardly think we'd be sipping tea and talking philosophy. What >> happened? Did quality >> Say nah, that's not what I wanted, I'm supposed to evolve into a >> chemistry professor! >> Yes David, I'm skeptical of the human minds ability to comprehend the >> infinite. >> I'm afraid this monster has no zipper on the back. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ron Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [MD] Heads or tails? >> >> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Krimel >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:22 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> >>> [Krimmel] >>> I think Pirsig and certainly many of the MoQers do not really get how >>> interesting this is. Note Pirsig's dismissal of the idea that the MoQ >>> would be a metaphysics of randomness. Boy, he missed the boat by not >>> running with that idea. >>> >>> {Ron] >>> I agree, a metaphysics of randomness would be more accurate and would >>> not elude >>> To misinterpretation that the term "moral" may imply. Fact is we just >> do >>> not know. >>> An inter-related system of dynamic value is about as close as we can >> get >>> >>> On any sort of concept. I dunno, I get what others say about it but >>> maybe it is my >>> Preconception that makes me fidgety over "moral" or "betterness" >>> ... I just have a hard time with the idea >>> that this is all headed somewhere. 'Good' seems to me is what is most >>> suitable for survival >>> That which secures continuance in the value field as currently >>> manifested. >>> >>> >>> >>> moq_discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>> moq_discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>> >> >> moq_discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> moq_discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
