Hi Ron Yes, I think that life and environment are an entwined dynamic process, so that emerging complexity is a sort of unfolding of possibilities.
David M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Heads or tails? > Hi David, > > > > [David M] > What is surprising about life is that it seems to set off evolving again > even if chance causes a big wipe out. > How often life evolves on other planets from the inorganic we don't yet > know. > > [Ron] > I keep wondering if it is litereally evoloving in the way the term means > to progress where progress > tends to elude toward an end result or is it continuous adaption to the > DQ du jour? You know, semper fi? > Maybe it is not so much evolution as a projection of Dynamic quality. We > concieve of living organisms > as stabile entities which "adapt" or respond to the environment where > perhaps it may be viewed as > Changing 'with' it's environment. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 7:27 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] Heads or tails? > > >> >> [David M] >> >> I do not think the fact that change can be destructive helps much to >> understand the creative capacities this universe clearly exhibits. > Back >> to the excluded middle again. >> >> [Ron] >> Please elaborate, I don't quite get what it is you are saying then. >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ron Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [MD] Heads or tails? >> >> >>> >>> [David M] >>> You old skeptic, lucky you were not >>> around for the big bang, would you have >>> ever believed we could have got here? >>> >>> [Ron] >>> Our evolution is largely the result of geologic and cosmic fortune. A >>> celestrial impact or two, >>> and who knows? If the impact theorized to have wiped out the > dinosaurs >>> would have never happened >>> I hardly think we'd be sipping tea and talking philosophy. What >>> happened? Did quality >>> Say nah, that's not what I wanted, I'm supposed to evolve into a >>> chemistry professor! >>> Yes David, I'm skeptical of the human minds ability to comprehend the >>> infinite. >>> I'm afraid this monster has no zipper on the back. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ron Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:28 PM >>> Subject: Re: [MD] Heads or tails? >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Krimel >>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 1:22 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> >>>> [Krimmel] >>>> I think Pirsig and certainly many of the MoQers do not really get > how >>>> interesting this is. Note Pirsig's dismissal of the idea that the > MoQ >>>> would be a metaphysics of randomness. Boy, he missed the boat by not >>>> running with that idea. >>>> >>>> {Ron] >>>> I agree, a metaphysics of randomness would be more accurate and > would >>>> not elude >>>> To misinterpretation that the term "moral" may imply. Fact is we > just >>> do >>>> not know. >>>> An inter-related system of dynamic value is about as close as we can >>> get >>>> >>>> On any sort of concept. I dunno, I get what others say about it but >>>> maybe it is my >>>> Preconception that makes me fidgety over "moral" or "betterness" >>>> ... I just have a hard time with the idea >>>> that this is all headed somewhere. 'Good' seems to me is what is > most >>>> suitable for survival >>>> That which secures continuance in the value field as currently >>>> manifested. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> moq_discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>>> moq_discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>>> >>> >>> moq_discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>> moq_discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >>> >> >> moq_discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> moq_discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
