Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Ah yes Platt, the old ones are the best ... the axiom that there are no 
> axioms.
> 
> We cannot be "certain" Platt, in any sense that would satisfy a person
> who refuses to see the value in recursion, we can only be wise and
> enlightened, as I actually said.
> 
> Ian

You seem to be certain that "we can only be wise and enlightened." I presume
you do not see the self-contradiction because you do not accept the value
of logic. Further, I presume it's fruitless to define "wise" and "enlightened."
Thus, I conclude your statement is meaningless.




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