> [Jared] > > 1.) the periodic table is a useful way to illustrate physical value > relationships. > it has great static quality. > > 2.) life/evolution is a process that manifests itself as a queer, > seemingly anti-entropic phenomenon that the constituent "value > relationships" (matter/stuff) described in the table convey.the table > is a result of evolution; homosapiens, a result of evolution, created > the table and therefore it shall not deny it.
[Ron] An element is a type of atom that is defined by its atomic number; that is, by the number of protons in its nucleus, and its electronegativity correct? how elements react with one another depends chiefly on number and how tighly bound protons and electrons are to the nucleus. The more tightly bound an element is, the more energy is required to remove an electron. In this way Topos theory may be aplied to create a physical model of inter-relatedness of all aspects of physical reality, I believe this ties in with Pirsigs thoughts of how the relationships of the four levels work. It is also my suspicion of how consciousness comes to exist, but the big question for me is what is the binding source? what is energy in all it's forms such as kinetic, potential, thermal, electrical, chemical, nuclear, and mass energy. Energy may be converted from one form to another, but it is never created or destroyed. This principle, the conservation of energy, was first postulated in the early 19th century, and applies to any isolated system. According to Noether's theorem, the conservation of energy is a consequence of the fact that the laws of physics do not change over time. " There is a fact, or if you wish, a law, governing natural phenomena that are known to date. There is no known exception to this law - it is exact so far we know. The law is called conservation of energy; it states that there is a certain quantity, which we call energy that does not change in manifold changes which nature undergoes. That is a most abstract idea, because it is a mathematical principle; it says that there is a numerical quantity, which does not change when something happens. It is not a description of a mechanism, or anything concrete; it is just a strange fact that we can calculate some number, and when we finish watching nature go through her tricks and calculate the number again, it is the same. " -The Feynman Lectures on Physics This coupled with various other supporting methods leads me to believe that the physical universe is infinite (or at least it's substance) and interrelated by virtue of Heisenburgs uncertainty principle and Einsteins relativity theory. The basic debate between Einstein and Bohr (including Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle) was that Einstein was in essence saying: "Of course, we can know where something is; we can know the position of a moving particle if we know every possible detail, and therefore by extension, we can predict where it will go." Bohr and Heisenberg were saying: "We can only know the probable position of a moving particle, therefore by extension, we can only know its probable destination; we can never know with absolute certainty where it will go." due to the interrelated forces of other particles emitted by radiant energy by the surrounding environment. in 1964 John Bell theorized the Bell inequality to counter them, which postulated that although the behavior of an individual particle is random, it is also correlated with the behavior of other particles. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
