[Joe] For > myself I see value determined in an octave relationship, rather than only > the 4 levels of organic, inorganic, social, intellectual proposed by > Pirsig.
[Ron] To tie in Joe's octave theory with my previous post, sound is considered a low frequency energy emission and atomic electron/proton orbitals are now being viewed as quantum vibrating oscillations somwhat like string theory. The term which encompasses all of them and Pirsigs levels is the inter-relatedness and the concept of how it functions together. To view reality as inter-related forms of energy and not so much as what we commonly concieve of evolution and the linear perception of time. I would like to hear your thoughts on the six zero's and how you divide elements by zero? I'm still not sure I understand this idea. Thanks ----- Original Message ---- From: Jared M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2007 2:30:09 AM Subject: Re: [MD] metaphysics, substance, intellect Joe, Your individualizam has captured my intrigue. will you expand upon your ocataval idea regarding the ralationship of values? Jared ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [MD] metaphysics, substance, intellect > On Friday 6 July 2007 10:41:34 PM Jared M writes to Joe (and all) > > thanks for such a warm welcome. > preficing your response with "IMO" indicates a certain dynamic quality. > therefore i submit to you the following ideas; cutting an other edge of > reality. > > 1.) the periodic table is a useful way to illustrate physical value > relationships. > it has great static quality. > > 2.) life/evolution is a process that manifests itself as a queer, > seemingly anti-entropic phenomenon that the constituent "value > relationships" (matter/stuff) described in the table convey.the table > is a result of evolution; homosapiens, a result of evolution, created > the table and therefore it shall not deny it. > > my interjection of Emerson's essay is meant to inspire discussion of the > transcendental or "dynamic quality" correlation between two brilliant > philosophers, disparate only by time (one hundred years.) > > Hi Jared and all, > > Hey! Thanks for your input, and welcome! > > IMO Pirsig proposed evolution as the basis of morality in that if the > higher level destroys the lower level it destroys itself by stopping > evolution. If the lower level destroys the higher level it denies its own > existence and will cease to exist as a level. > > The periodic table is a numbers game where you cannot divide by 0. In the > language game of evolution proposed by Pirsig 0 divides the levels. > Aristotle proposed prime matter as almost 0. The ?transcendental? accepts > a mind-body split which leads to a subjective objective division of > thought. For Pirsig objective, subjective depends on value not mind. For > myself I see value determined in an octave relationship, rather than only > the 4 levels of organic, inorganic, social, intellectual proposed by > Pirsig. > > Joe > > > Joe,(and all) > thanks for such a warm welcome. > preficing your response with "IMO" indicates a certain dynamic quality. > therefore i submit to you the following ideas; cutting an other edge of > reality. > > 1.) the periodic table is a useful way to illustrate physical value > relationships. > it has great static quality. > > 2.) life/evolution is a process that manifests itself as a queer, > seemingly anti-entropic phenomenon that the constituent "value > relationships" (matter/stuff) described in the table convey. > the table is a result of evolution; homosapiens, a result of evolution, > created the table and therefore it shall not deny it. > > my interjection of Emerson's essay is meant to inspire discussion of the > transcendental or "dynamic quality" correlation between two brilliant > philosophers, disparate only by time (one hundred years.) > > > -jared > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
