[Ron]
I do not know much of Gurdjieff but that he was mostly a mystic who
taught self awareness through spiritual dance. I do know that Timothy
Leary was influenced by his work.. If I remember correctly his thought
and methods were a grand unification theory of religeon and self
enlightenment.
as far as mathmatic metaphors, I think I'm still pretty lost, when
mysticism meets mathmatics it can tend to mean anything you like.
[Joe]
Unfortunately DQ is indefinable, yet basic to metaphysics. Does
metaphysics include mathematics? Yes! Then mathematics in some way has
to be understood metaphorically, when used to describe evolution. Four
levels of evolution is a metaphor. To put semantics outside of
metaphysics is to- mean anything I like. If 1 divided by 0 doesn?t make
sense, would you suggest a better metaphor for the boundaries of
evolution? As for Gurdjieff, IMO he is his own man as we all are.
[Ron]
DQ may be undefineable but does zero represent all things or nothing?
I'm trying to use logic to understand the meaning behind 1 divided by
zero,for what ever you divide by zero is usually what you start with
logically. Commonly, dividing by zero is superfulous it is a useless
action, but dividing by everything
has some meaning, I'm just trying to get this straight.
I found meaning in the rounding limit, DQ has
meaning when it is limited by perception. Mathmaticaly numbers run off
into infinity unless a limit
is set to percipitate a round and go to the next number. Without this it
is meaningless, I feel this is
a good metaphor for perception. As for evolution, fractile geometry, set
theory and topos
comes close to modeling an accurate representation. but maybe I'm
looking at what your saying
in too much of a objective material way, I get the feeling your speaking
from a mystical perpective
and that's perhaps where your losing me.
thanks Joe
[Ron]
eh? this does sound interesting, please elaborate on how octaves, 6
zeros and Pirsigs 4 levels relate to one another.
I'm most interested to hear this. I share Jareds' intrigue.Thanks
[Joe]
Hi Ron, Jared M, and all,
Eh? A scary question!
Joe?s mathematics of evolution. I reread Gurdjieff?s chapter
?Heptaparaparshinok in his book All and Everything, and I still can?t
follow it, but his methodology of including air, light, the opium plant
as examples of a substances that can be divided according to seven steps
seems a good approach.
I do not know how Pythagoras? harmony of the spheres settles.
IMO Dq is undefined, 0. A code of art is realized when the consciousness
of the manifestation fits a template. The 1 is a manifestation capable
of evolving, the 0 is how I describe DQ by metaphor. In MOQ terms when
I divide earth 1 by 0 water, I have a 1 capable of division, and a 0
capable of dividing 1 into organic life which is reproducible by itself,
man. When I divide life 1 by water 0 the result is life reproducible
with another, woman. When I divide woman 1 by 0 air proprietary
awareness (consciousness, social order) is the result. When I divide the
social order 1 by 0 fire the intellectual order of law results, and
cosmic evolution stops, but conscious evolution continues. 1
intellectual order of law, 0 consciousness, a higher social order
evolves. 1 higher social order of?, 0 consciousness, a higher
intellectual order. As far as 1 earth can go is enlightenment. IMO
[Ron]
I do not know much of Gurdjieff but that he was mostly a mystic who
taught self awareness through spiritual dance. I do know that Timothy
Leary was influenced by his work.. If I remember correctly his thought
and methods were a grand unification theory of religeon and self
enlightenment.
as far as mathmatic metaphors, I think I'm still pretty lost, when
mysticism meets mathmatics it can tend to mean anything you like.
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