Miscue Made Easy.  V is a proficient fifth grade, am I right?  If we were 
talking about a fifth grader, I have to be honest.  I would not be worrying 
about levels, but about depth of understanding, ability to read a wide cariety 
of genres and authors.  Some of our schools are using the DRA, as it does 
assess to a level 80, or eighth grade level.  However, these are smaller 
schools and they don't have overwhelming numbers.  We are hoping to develop a 
sstem for red-flagging our fifth graders heading to middle school so that we 
can keep a closer eye on students who are significantly below reading level.  A 
year give or take just doesn't send me into a tail spin if that reader is 
making steady progress.  Not all flowers bloom at the same time sort of thing.  
But it concerns me that we seem to sort of let go of struggling readers, you 
know the ones who don't qualify for ex. ed. support but still seem to need a 
bit extra.  I am hoping that we can continue to use the DRA with this 
population throughout Middle School and begin thinking hard about how to reach 
them at this level.  This is not criticism of our MS teachers--but they have 
sixty plus kids and our classes are growing.  Using the DRA for every kid just 
doesn't cut it, but perhaps using it for a more limited population would.  I 
would love to hear what other middle school teachers/schools are using.  The 
struggle for me is that those measures I think provide the best information, 
including Miscue, are very time consuming and require one to one 
administration.  We know that it is a very different  for a teacher with 18 
faces and a classroom aide to assess one on one than it is for a middle school 
teacher with three sections of twenty plus.  

Lori

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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] assessments

> What is the name of Ruth Davenport's book?  Does she address only  primary 
> grades or higher?  We are a K-8 school.  How do you recommend  assessing at 
> levels beyond V?
>  
> Leslie
>  
>  
> In a message dated 1/17/2008 8:38:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> You are  self taught how amazing.  Thank you I will pick up the book.
> Pat  K
> 
> "to be nobody but yourself -- in a world which is doing its best,  night  
> and day, to make you like everybody else -- means to fight the  hardest  
> battle which any human being can fight, and never stop  fighting."
> 
> e.e. cummings
> 
> On Jan 17, 2008, at 6:21 AM, ljackson  wrote:
> 
> > I am working with teachers interested in doing miscue and  the book that
> > seems to speak the most concisely to them is Ruthie  Davenport's.  It is
> > procedure III and presented in very teacher  friendly language.  I find  
> > that
> > teachers are a bit  overwhelmed by the idea of recording and creating  
> > text
> >  scripts, but having done so and having engaged in meaningful  
> >  conversations
> > as we discuss and analyze together, all have become  convinced that it  
> > is
> > impacting not only the way they  think about student reading, but the
> > interactions and instructional  actions they take.  I really have to  
> > point to
> > the  opportunities to linger over these initial miscues and approaching   
> > the
> > study cooperatively.  I am self-taught, so I am  learning as much if  
> > not more
> > than I am  teaching.
> >
> > Lori
> >
> >
> > On 1/17/08 5:00 AM,  "Patricia Kimathi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>  What would you suggest that a teacher do when she/he does miscue
> >>  analysis?  Do you have steps that you use as you train teachers.   I
> >> can't seem to help teachers understand how it is in done.   I need an
> >> anchor chart for this (smile)  Our coaches  explanation even confused  
> >> me
> >> and I have been  doing it for years.
> >> Pat K
> >>
> >> "to be nobody  but yourself -- in a world which is doing its best,  
> >>  night
> >> and day, to make you like everybody else -- means to fight  the hardest
> >> battle which any human being can fight, and never stop  fighting."
> >>
> >> e.e. cummings
> >>
> >> On  Jan 16, 2008, at 1:05 PM, Ljackson wrote:
> >>
> >>> As much  as I totally agree, too many people do not know how to do
> >>>  miscue and even then, we need a calculator...
> >>>
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> > Lori Jackson
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