We are K-8. Our principal asks for levels on the kids every other month. In the elementary grades, teachers do miscues at least until gr.4. Once the kids are decoding proficiently, we have the kids read a passage on their own (sometimes with the first 100 words aloud if the teacher deems it necessary). The retelling and the additional questions are done in writing. The teacher can look at the assessment and decide whether the text is just right or if the child needs to be assessed at a higher level. This seems to work better in dealing with the large numbers of students MS teachers have. Leslie In a message dated 1/26/2008 5:32:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Miscue Made Easy. V is a proficient fifth grade, am I right? If we were talking about a fifth grader, I have to be honest. I would not be worrying about levels, but about depth of understanding, ability to read a wide cariety of genres and authors. Some of our schools are using the DRA, as it does assess to a level 80, or eighth grade level. However, these are smaller schools and they don't have overwhelming numbers. We are hoping to develop a sstem for red-flagging our fifth graders heading to middle school so that we can keep a closer eye on students who are significantly below reading level. A year give or take just doesn't send me into a tail spin if that reader is making steady progress. Not all flowers bloom at the same time sort of thing. But it concerns me that we seem to sort of let go of struggling readers, you know the ones who don't qualify for ex. ed. support but still seem to need a bit extra. I am hoping that we can continue to use the DRA with this population throughout Middle School and begin thinking hard about how to reach them at this level. This is not criticism of our MS teachers--but they have sixty plus kids and our classes are growing. Using the DRA for every kid just doesn't cut it, but perhaps using it for a more limited population would. I would love to hear what other middle school teachers/schools are using. The struggle for me is that those measures I think provide the best information, including Miscue, are very time consuming and require one to one administration. We know that it is a very different for a teacher with 18 faces and a classroom aide to assess one on one than it is for a middle school teacher with three sections of twenty plus.
Lori ----- Original message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, 2008, 26 Of January 17:15 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] assessments > What is the name of Ruth Davenport's book? Does she address only primary > grades or higher? We are a K-8 school. How do you recommend assessing at > levels beyond V? > > Leslie > > > In a message dated 1/17/2008 8:38:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > You are self taught how amazing. Thank you I will pick up the book. > Pat K > > "to be nobody but yourself -- in a world which is doing its best, night > and day, to make you like everybody else -- means to fight the hardest > battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting." > > e.e. cummings > > On Jan 17, 2008, at 6:21 AM, ljackson wrote: > > > I am working with teachers interested in doing miscue and the book that > > seems to speak the most concisely to them is Ruthie Davenport's. It is > > procedure III and presented in very teacher friendly language. I find > > that > > teachers are a bit overwhelmed by the idea of recording and creating > > text > > scripts, but having done so and having engaged in meaningful > > conversations > > as we discuss and analyze together, all have become convinced that it > > is > > impacting not only the way they think about student reading, but the > > interactions and instructional actions they take. I really have to > > point to > > the opportunities to linger over these initial miscues and approaching > > the > > study cooperatively. I am self-taught, so I am learning as much if > > not more > > than I am teaching. > > > > Lori > > > > > > On 1/17/08 5:00 AM, "Patricia Kimathi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> What would you suggest that a teacher do when she/he does miscue > >> analysis? Do you have steps that you use as you train teachers. I > >> can't seem to help teachers understand how it is in done. I need an > >> anchor chart for this (smile) Our coaches explanation even confused > >> me > >> and I have been doing it for years. > >> Pat K > >> > >> "to be nobody but yourself -- in a world which is doing its best, > >> night > >> and day, to make you like everybody else -- means to fight the hardest > >> battle which any human being can fight, and never stop fighting." > >> > >> e.e. cummings > >> > >> On Jan 16, 2008, at 1:05 PM, Ljackson wrote: > >> > >>> As much as I totally agree, too many people do not know how to do > >>> miscue and even then, we need a calculator... > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mosaic mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > >> http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > >> mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > >> > >> Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > >> > > > > -- > > Lori Jackson > > District Literacy Coach & Mentor > > Todd County School District > > Box 87 > > Mission SD 57555 > > > > http:www.tcsdk12.org > > ph. 605.856.2211 > > > > > > Literacies for All Summer Institute > > July 17-20. 2008 > > Tucson, Arizona > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mosaic mailing list > > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/ > > mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > > > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 > 48) > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
