I also agree that the movement roles project should come an good ending with a real meeting. Although I myself am not a very active participant, as i am struggling for my examination for university, I still think this group has made a lot of great things like what i was seen in Frankfurt and the IRC meeting in the early days. I am sorry for some of us may not hang on to the last minute, but we have had kept on eyes on this project and mailing list, so i hope a complete ending can be done and it can be taken seriously.
For the problem of the attendees of the meeting, i think we don't need to argue about the responsibilities of WMDE or somebody else. If somebody in the mailing list wants to go, I think SJ or WMDE will certainly deal with it. The participation in the group is always appreciated. Anyway, i think movement roles working group can be continue to exist, as i can see the Wikimedia projects are changing by the times and none of a model can be applied forever. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Béria Lima <[email protected]> wrote: > *I would be very glad if people didn't try interprete my words as they >> want to. >> * > > > I'm sorry if i misinterpreted you > > > *I didn't say that it's easy, the point I wanted to make is that we >> cannot do all the work at a meeting. We must do it now.* > > > With that I do agree. We should start work now. > > _____ > * > * > > *[image: Inline images 1]* > > *Béria Lima* > > * * > > * Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano.* > > > > *Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.* <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>** > > > > > > > > * > ** <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* > > > On 27 February 2012 10:55, Alice Wiegand <[email protected]> wrote: > >> 27 February 2012 14:46, Béria Lima <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> *I'm not sure if I understand what you wanted to say, Béria. Which no >>>> chapters entities are you speaking of?* >>>> * >>>> * >>> >>> http://lists.wikimedia.ch/private/chapters/2012-February/004230.html - >>> Harel almost invited them (with WMDE blessing). The only reason he didn't >>> was the overwhelming refusal from pretty much all the people in the mailing >>> list. >>> >> >> I don't have access to chapters-l. >> >> >> >>> >>> *Seven days ago I've written a mail about starting the wrap up and >>>> there was nearly no response. * >>>> >>> >>> And? That in some way invalidate the meeting? How old are we to react >>> with a "*No one answered me, so now I don't wanna play anymore?*" >> >> >> That is nor what I wanted to say nor what I said or even think. It is the >> essential preparation for any kind of finalizing what we are doing and I >> didn't get the impression that anyone is really interested in doing this >> work. >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> *And at the same time people started to registrate for the conference >>>> in Berlin before there was any discussion about the circumstances of such a >>>> meeting. >>>> * >>> >>> >>> >>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles/Working_group_meeting_2012-3-29- >>> created by you BTW. What the problem with discuss the meeting now? If we >>> don't discuss things with a 3 months notice, they aren't valid? We all knew >>> would have a MR meeting in Chapters Conference (We knew so much that when >>> Harel created the registration page he created the MR spot: >>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Conference_2012/Participants&oldid=3227652). >>> And that was only 15 days ago. >>> >>> *The work that needs to be done must be done before this or any other >>>> meeting and then the meeting can be a small and short exchange. * >>>> >>> >>> I'm very glad you believe the work will be that easy, Alice. But if is >>> easy or not, isn't in question here. What is in question is that we need >>> representation to call this a MR meeting, and now we don't. >>> >> >> I would be very glad if people didn't try interprete my words as they >> want to. I didn't say that it's easy, the point I wanted to make is that we >> cannot do all the work at a meeting. We must do it now. >> >> Thanks, Alice. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Movementroles mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/movementroles > > -- Cheers, Morgan Sent from my Ubuntu
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