"Simon P. Lucy" wrote:
> 
> At 20:02 03/04/2001 -0400, Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote:
> >I hope Simon's answer and the post that started it, was Tongue in Cheek.
> 
> No I don't think so.
> 
> >But.... That's what I i knew all along. Evidently they don't get it.
> >
> >Who are you developing  it For.
> >
> >Simon, and Asa yo use. I don't think so.
> >
> >It industry Hp, Netscape, Microsoft (well that's a stretch) Sun.
> >Macromedia, Sony, JVC,
> >
> >amd for John and Jane Smith and their equivelents.
> >
> >In other word "END USERS". If not then you had better pack up your Bags
> >and Go home.
> 
> If I make a build for distribution then yes I'm interested in the target
> market, that's the whole point of making the distribution.  mozilla.org's
> market largely includes those making distributions and not individual end
> users.  Because the UI (and most of the arguments are over UI), behaves in
> one way on the mozilla.org reference build is no reason for it not to
> behave differently on a different distribution, whether that's Netscape,
> Nokia or whomever.  Beonex.org's distribution aims to be as close to
> mozilla.org as possible but be packaged for the end user.  Beonex.com
> though, might very well develop a distribution for an entirely different
> market or corporate client and have significantly different features.

While Beonex efforts are all well and good. They are targeting "only"
the "Windows" Market.

I've been in touch with them and the have stated unequivocally. "We have
no interest at this time in developing a Mac version of Beonex".

Of course at the time I contacted them, I think I may have been the
second person to inquire about such.

Its possible things have changed since then. But given the tone of the
reponse the chances are "Slim" and "None"; and "Slim " left last week.

Despite the hatered for the Mac platform, or at least the lame excuse we
don't have enough bucks to invest in the hardware and software to
develop; (I've gone over this in another thread); I refuse to leave the
Mac Platform until the day Apple Computer padlocks the doors and all the
software currently on the computer will no longer work. Then and only
then I will be dragged kicking and scream (would be hard to do as I am
over 300 pounds) to the Windows Platform.

> 
> >The "Prime Directive" (Star Trek terminology) of Mozilla is to make a
> >Killer application to Bury Internet Explorer/Outlook Express so well
> >that MicroSoft will discontinue it. And Put Mozilla/Netscape as the A-1
> >Prime WEb Browser/Email Client on the planet.
> 
> I don't think that's anywhere stated as an objective for mozilla.org or
> anything like it.  In fact its part of the problem that some think that
> that is the aim.

It should be. How are you going to develop a following and therefore a
base for companies to use for end user products. If Microsoft is allowed
to go on without any competition then what's the point in developing
Mozilla/Netscape6. After all if they are the only product out with
standards compliance then they can put in something to break the
standards the standards committee has came up with.

If you don't believe Gates will then I know where you can get some
expensive swamp land in Florida I can guarantee you can build on and
there be no water around.   :-)


> >The prime concern of anyone not working for Microsoft should be work for
> >there demise or at least reduce their importance in the realm of things.
> 
> Err no.  Microsoft aren't an enemy, so far as I know they don't eat babies
> and I really don't care how successful they are.

Yes they are! There are! They are! people still don't get it. If your
not on your guard Only Microsoft will provide Software for anything.
Please read your computer history of Software. There many software
companies (many of them Mac centric) that were bought up by Microsoft
then the products killed as soon as they were bought. Up until a few
years ago Microsofts number one project was to kill off Apple Corp and
the Macintosh. Then suddenly some realized that if Apple wasn't around
the Feds would have no choice to break up Microsoft in so many little
pieces it couldn't survive. So they invested 5 or 10 million dollars in
Apple to prevent that from happening.

> >Do we realize Mr Gates could buy the entire USA and have money left over.
> 
> No Gates couldn't, though if he did Shrub might have to pick up the Kyoto
> Accord again :-)
> 
> Simon
> 
> ==================================
> We are not the stuff that abides,
> but patterns that perpetuate themselves.
> Norbert Weiner

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