CaT authored the following: > On Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:19:17AM +0000, Bundy wrote: > *36 lines snipped. learn to cut back on your quoting people! fark...* > >>BLOATWARE ALERT!!!! >> >>IRC Client = bloatware and will never make it to a NS build. It's a > > > a 103k xpi that you don't have to download if you don't want to.
Ah, but people claim that is the Reason why Moz is so much larger than Opera. > > >>Webpage Editor = bloatware - should be the users choice to download in > > > Now this one is a bit harder to quantify due to the fact that it's an > integral part of browser.xpi Gee, an integral part of the software... Gee, where have we heard this before (think MS and MS Explorer). Seems that Mozilla does what MS does and makes sure they bundle their bloatware so you can't remove it. >>Javascript profiler - bloatware, only geeks will ever use that. > > > I believe this is in venkman.xpi which is 153k. So remove the chat and Javascript profiler and Mozilla is still over 10+meg Bloatware.... > > Now, personally, I wish mozilla had taken the path of building a > kickarse browser and then built the rest. Amen. Four years and still nothing to brag about. Four years ago, windows 95 was the leading OS. That is what OPera is doing, building a great browser first, then getting the email and usenet part corrected. > This was not taken. It's a > shame but fsck it. It's done. It's been four years and all they have done is lost nearly all it's marketshare. When Moz started 4 years ago, NS and MS were neck and neck in the browser market. While MS kept on putting out newer versions, NS had 4.x in 98,99,2000,2001 and dropping market share while working on Open Source Moz.. The 6.x was such a horrible release, it doomed NS. > What they did do though that I commend is > made a highly modular browser. One that allows people to build add-ons > (like the pref bar for example - it's cool :) and all sorts of doohikies > for it. > > This lends me to a rather nice theory (IMO). As mozilla is not for the > end-user as it stands but rather for developers to make use of and > create their own browsers out of, things like chatzilla and the js > profiler and other such things all serve a very important service (other > then their primary function), and that is that they are examples of just > what CAN be done with mozilla. This sort of thing is most useful to the > future of mozilla due to the fact that it allows future developers of > addons to get more familiar with the varied APIs involved and write even > more fun things that you'll probably find useful but whose existance > you'll take for granted. Afterall, they ARE just worthless fscking geeks > now aren't they? > You know what I would like to see. All the Netscape Champions resign and non-AOL employed Mozilla work to put out an a end user Mozilla product. What do these people owe AOL/Time Warner anyhow? Allow NS to slip to just a few percent of the browser market? I'm sorry but since Netscape is owned by mega-giant, AOl, they are not an underdog at all.
