Christopher Jahn wrote:
>And it came to pass that Ben Bucksch wrote:
>
>>"plaintext" is the format in which the msg gets *sent*, not
>>necessarily how it is composed or displayed in Mozilla or
>>any other mailer.
>>
>
>And this, of course, is the chief flaw in Mozilla's mail/news
>UI.
>
You can change the prefs. What's your problem?
>As stated many times, I detest the UI, and thus use other
>products until such a time as a decent UI is instituted.
>
Fine.
>>E.g. in Mozilla and Outlook*, you usually compose in HTML,
>>but you may send in plaintext. What's done here is the
>>logical other way around: recieved as plaintext, displayed
>>as HTML-like.
>>
>
>LOGICAL would be to see and send plaintext if that's what you
>prefer.
>
Yes, and that's what Mozilla does, *if you prefer that*. I think that
most people prefer to send plaintext (because that's what most mailers
can read), but see HTML (because it's easier to read, IMO).
If you are a die-hard plaintext fan, you probably use mutt anyway.
Mozilla is not your tool then.
>My current client displays plaintext as plaintext, and
>sends plaintext. THAT's logical - not the current Mozilla UI.
>
Following the same logic, you should retrieve your mail via |telnet
pop.yourisp.com 110|, because it is "logical" to enter POP commands to
retrieve mail from a POP server.
From my POV, plaintext msg is just the raw, on-the-wire format. If you
disagree, change your prefs and Mozilla will do what you like. I really
don't understand your problem.
>>As for format=flowed (which is also a form of "text/plain",
>>and a quite good at that), the HTML composer, including
>>these blue bars, is actually the only reasonable way to
>>compose it.
>>
>
>Except that it isn't.
>
Right. You probably didn't even bother to read the spec, but you know
that what I say is wrong. We had a long, techical discussion on that
(check bugzilla, if you're interested), and the outcome is that we have
to use <blockquote type=cite> in the composer to make flowed work right.
But, of course, you know it better.
>Many of us despise the blue bar.
>
And many like it.
>I want PLAINTEXT, dammit. Gimme!
>
Year, right, dammit! *Throwing on the floor and yelling*
