I counted roughly 75 posts at 2002-05-09 (CET) on 
netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news. Not a *single one* of them was from a 
developer about Mozilla development. Most of them were end-user 
questions of the type "Can somebody help me with x?" or "Why doesn't it 
work like y?" and the responses to them. That's 100% (!) noise (judging 
from a quick look).

The charter of the newsgroup <http://www.mozilla.org/community.html> is 
(quoted in part):

> Are you in the right place?
>
> The mailing lists and newsgroups described here are for Mozilla 
> *developers*, not for end users. These lists are for discussions 
> related to the Mozilla source code, by and for the Mozilla developer 
> community.
>
(emphasis original)

> Stay on topic
> please pay attention to the topic of your messages, and check that it 
> still relates to the charter of the forum to which you are posting.

And specifically the .mail-news newsgroup:

> Mail/News
> This forum is for discussions about the Mozilla mail and news reader; 
> see the mail/news pages <http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/> for more 
> information. This would also be the place to discuss integrating 
> Mozilla with other mail and news systems, and about message composition. 

(This should be obvious from the name of the newsgroup alone, 
nevertheless the noted day contains posts which are clearly about the 
browser, not Mailnews.)

If you haven't read the charter, please do it now. Some other 
interesting bits:

> Report bugs in Bugzilla, not in the Mozilla forums
>
> Edit your followups.
>
> No anonymous messages.
>
And, as always, search for previous discussions, if your question/topic 
has been answered/discussed before. Redundant postings only waste time, 
maybe not for the original poster, but for the rest of the people. (The 
noted day also contains a reopening of a heated discussion we had 
before, completely ignoring the old arguments.)

This problem is IMO partially the fault of mozilla.org, but I'll save 
this discussion for another time.

So, please, could we go back to the original intend of this group and 
restrict it to *development* of the Mailnews client? I count as 
developer everyone who works on the source code and who runs builds to 
find bugs (i.e. to goal is to find bugs, not just to got work done). If 
you are an end-user and have a suggestion, please report it to your 
Mozilla vendor like Netscape or Beonex.
Please do not answer questions that are offtopic.

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