This sounds so fair - have both - but then there is no ban, and we're
right back to where we are now - with almost none, because of the $$$
paid by Big Tobacco to bars (big bucks to display a cigarette ad - payoff
for having smoking, for an environment to hook the young for life.)

And if a law were set up to make 80% of bars non-smoking, and 20% smoking
- in line with population percentages - Big Tobacco would plow really big
bucks into the 20%, send all the big music acts there, so the only
**exciting** bars in town are the SMOKING bars. Big Tobacco is craven,
immoral, opportunistic, manipulative, the worst of our corporations - give
them an inch and they will take a mile. So give them no inches at all.

The Arabs have a saying about camels -you let the camel get his nose in
the tent, and soon the whole camel is inside. Don't let the Camel in, no
part of it, no nose, nothing. A complete and total ban. Anytbing else and
it will be undermined in a few months or years. Stop these criminals now.

--David Shove
Roseville




On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Robert Yorga wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> This whole thing is being looked at the wrong way.....let's have both......
> clubs and bars that are smoke-free and clubs and bars that are not
> smoke-free. This would be good for both sides. The smokers are happy and the
> non-smokers are happy. And except for a band playing a certain venue and not
> another I think it would work fine. A law wouldn't need to be made and
> enforced and a new niche is created. This is truly what diversity is about.
> Society may have changed it's view of smoking but some adults will continue
> to want to smoke. Smokers are like cornered animals as it is these
> days.....lets not make it worse. Cessation of smoking will take care of
> itself.....in due time.
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