But I think what Dave is telling me is that Gemplus distinguishes
between the cards that have the dual ATRs by calling them "FIPS" or
"NON-FIPS"--don't ask me why.

Carl

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:52:37 -0700, Peter Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FIPS (140-1 or 140-2) makes no difference.A GSM card with 2 ATRs can be
> FIPS-accredited. The FIPS 140-1 only address the crypto boundary, not the
> 7816 conformance.
> 
> You just need cards targetted for PCs.
> 
> >From: Carl Youngblood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], MUSCLE  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: David Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: MUSCLE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [Muscle] Re: your G+ card
> >Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:40:00 -0700
> 
> 
> >
> >Yeah, I just noticed on my invoice that it says GEMXPRESSO PRO 64K PK
> >NON-FIPS SC.  I didn't realize that FIPS made a difference in this
> >case.  I have called them and they are going to send me out the right
> >kind of cards this time.
> >
> >I'm surprised that nobody on the list caught this problem earlier.  I
> >guess the next time somebody is complaining of similar symptoms we
> >will know what to tell them.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Carl
> >
> >On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:31:46 -0500, David Corcoran
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Well, they sent you some GSM/3G cards.  The cards you want are:
> > > GemXpresso Pro 64K - FIPS - 0703 or something like that .....
> > > I would contact them and tell them they sent you dual ATR cards for
> > > 3G/GSM phones and that is not what you wanted ....
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, the smart card industry hasn't figured out how to
> > > portray their version control/revisions to their customers so you are
> > > stuck with a card that is called the Cyberflex or the GemXPresso Pro
> > > but there could be 100's of configurations of them ....
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jul 27, 2004, at 12:15 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote:
> > >
> > > > I told them to send me the GemXpresso Pro 64K card.  Is there more
> > > > than one type of this card?  I also explained to the technical rep.
> > > > that I was intending to load the muscle applet on it, so I don't know
> > > > why he would have given me the wrong card.  Are there any visible
> > > > differences that will allow me to distinguish between the two types of
> > > > cards?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:57:37 -0500, David Corcoran
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> Hi Carl,
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes, this seems like a 3G/GSM combo card that you have (with the dual
> > > >> ATR) - since these are meant to work in phones they don't have to
> >deal
> > > >> with simultaneous application access.
> > > >> Any reason why this card was chosen rather than the standard Gemplus
> > > >> FIPS 64k Java Card ?
> > > >>
> > > >> Dave
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