Nope, that is not the distinction. I was just telling you the card that you wanted to get ....

Dave


On Jul 27, 2004, at 1:57 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote:

But I think what Dave is telling me is that Gemplus distinguishes
between the cards that have the dual ATRs by calling them "FIPS" or
"NON-FIPS"--don't ask me why.

Carl

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:52:37 -0700, Peter Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
FIPS (140-1 or 140-2) makes no difference.A GSM card with 2 ATRs can be
FIPS-accredited. The FIPS 140-1 only address the crypto boundary, not the
7816 conformance.

You just need cards targetted for PCs.

From: Carl Youngblood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], MUSCLE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: David Corcoran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: MUSCLE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Muscle] Re: your G+ card
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:40:00 -0700


Yeah, I just noticed on my invoice that it says GEMXPRESSO PRO 64K PK
NON-FIPS SC. I didn't realize that FIPS made a difference in this
case. I have called them and they are going to send me out the right
kind of cards this time.

I'm surprised that nobody on the list caught this problem earlier. I
guess the next time somebody is complaining of similar symptoms we
will know what to tell them.

Thanks,
Carl

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:31:46 -0500, David Corcoran
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, they sent you some GSM/3G cards. The cards you want are:
GemXpresso Pro 64K - FIPS - 0703 or something like that .....
I would contact them and tell them they sent you dual ATR cards for
3G/GSM phones and that is not what you wanted ....

Unfortunately, the smart card industry hasn't figured out how to
portray their version control/revisions to their customers so you are
stuck with a card that is called the Cyberflex or the GemXPresso Pro
but there could be 100's of configurations of them ....

Dave




On Jul 27, 2004, at 12:15 PM, Carl Youngblood wrote:

I told them to send me the GemXpresso Pro 64K card. Is there more
than one type of this card? I also explained to the technical rep.
that I was intending to load the muscle applet on it, so I don't know
why he would have given me the wrong card. Are there any visible
differences that will allow me to distinguish between the two types of
cards?

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:57:37 -0500, David Corcoran
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Carl,

Yes, this seems like a 3G/GSM combo card that you have (with the dual
ATR) - since these are meant to work in phones they don't have to
deal
with simultaneous application access.
Any reason why this card was chosen rather than the standard Gemplus
FIPS 64k Java Card ?

Dave
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