Just keep in mind a few things: - The leaks and compromized passwords are not happening all over because they were "web apps". They happen the same whether it is web app, other type of server, and home computers. - One of the most talked about ways these days is social engineering (you were tricked into doing something) - Frankly, your own computer and everything on it's drives is not protected if you (1) have any amount of access to the Internet on your computer, (2) run any software not written by yourself because who can you trust, (3) your own software had a flaw that someone was able to exploit. - Those common holes in your local security are not even about whether your password was easy to guess for a hacker that can try passwords more than a million guesses per second. - For the infamous "wannacry" attacks, it was strictly the OS itself (like Windows XP with all updated security patches installed) which the users could not trust. The only way was to pull the plug on the Internet to be sure you were save from bad stuff being ran on your computer by hackers.
So yeah there is a choice not to put our own data on the cloud for now, but we need to understand a lot more than that to protect ourselves these days. On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 3:45:42 AM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > > Encryption of the database itself would be an additional level of > security, but the truth is, as we see from data leaks and compromised > passwords, that are regularly in the news, so far there is no truly secure > way of running the internet and webapps. > > But webapps which reflect the current data, working with device apps which > have much shared design and code, are also an attractive option, and I use > some alongside MLO. > > Obviously the user decides, with any app, whether some data is best kept > offline for personal security. > > Laurence > On Tuesday, 16 November 2021 at 13:13:46 UTC Dwight wrote: > >> Let me try to explain the security issue and why the expensive and >> burdensome task or maintaining separate code bases would do nothing to >> solve this. >> >> If a web app is going to work with your tasks, it needs read/write access >> to some database where your tasks are kept. The obvious choice would be the >> cloud synch database. But exposing your tasks to an internet app also >> exposes everyone else's tasks to the internet. You may not care if a hacker >> has access to your task list but there are some users who would object. It >> makes no difference whether you are I are on the same code base, if your >> app has access to the cloud synch database then my tasks are at the same >> risk as yours. The way to manage this risk would be to incorporate security >> enhancements into the cloud synch database. For example, encrypting the >> data in the cloud sync database. This way, you would have the freedom to >> unlock your own tasks to your web app plus any attackers from the Internet >> who take an interest, while I would be able to leave my tasks secured. >> >> -Dwight >> On 11/10/2021 06:02, Laurence Glazier wrote: >> >> I would certainly like this, and for the view designs to likewise be >> common to all devices. Everything drawn from the web. When MLO started, >> there was no such thing as a webapp. I am a paid-up supporter of MLO on >> Apple, Windows and Android, but would prefer an equivalent monthly sub >> together with a webapp. But I also like knowing I can keep the app versions >> I have paid for forever! >> >> On Friday, 22 October 2021 at 02:30:14 UTC+1 imajeff wrote: >> >>> Do you realize how old MyLifeOrganized still is, I'm sure it's based on >>> MFC, using Windows 98 technology wherever possible. It would not be like >>> them to create a whole new cloud-based application, but if they did, you >>> would be paying by the month not for installation license so it is a whole >>> new ballpark if they tried that. I would be very surprised, as it has been >>> so awkward just getting to where they could syncronize data via the cloud. >>> >>> I'd like to hear what Andre thinks these days about making a whole new >>> codebase for that, because more than a decade ago I could see why he didn't >>> finish the Linux version either, and later gets a lot of flak for not >>> haveing one also for Apple OS. >>> >>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 2:09:02 PM UTC-6 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> He'd have to have two separate systems then. Keep what there is now for >>>> those who want it and have the web version for those who want it. >>>> >>>> All I know is there was a web version of MLO, if it were possible, >>>> that is, it would do well because other former (or maybe current?) users >>>> of >>>> MLO are in the forums for other apps like TickTick and ClickUp making >>>> requests for features that MLO already has. It's only a matter of time >>>> until what Andrey is offering is easily found online. Regardless, I've got >>>> to move to something else that doesn't keep me restricted to the desktop >>>> or >>>> key fob because I use the calendar sync and the mobile apps don't have it. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 2:44:49 PM UTC-4 Dwight wrote: >>>> >>>>> You may have missed my point. If I use MLO/desktop AND I use cloud >>>>> sync, and you use MLO/webwhich is attached to the cloud file, then my >>>>> data >>>>> will be insecure even if I myself never use MLO/web. >>>>> >>>>> If you want me to explain this, write to me at [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> -Dwight >>>>> >>>>> On October 21, 2021 10:56:49 Joel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Andrey could still keep MLO for desktop for those who are paranoid >>>>>> about that. I'm just asking for an online version for those who aren't. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 5:30:04 PM UTC-4 Dwight wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, Joel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where will this app obtain access to my tasks? The most logical. and >>>>>>> easiest to program, would be to simply take the data from the cloud >>>>>>> sync >>>>>>> file.But that would be a problem for me. I already consider the >>>>>>> security of >>>>>>> the cloud sync file to be an area for concern. If any miscreant who has >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> app and can guess or steal my password can retrieve all my tasks I >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> consider MLO cloud sync to be profoundly insecure. That would be a >>>>>>> shame >>>>>>> because I really like MLO cloud sync. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Dwight >>>>>>> On 10/20/2021 13:12, Joel wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I could go into the reasons why I want it but mainly just want to >>>>>>> know if there's a web version of MLO in the works? 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