I think there is a fine line between what MLO can do. Just my 2 cents. Thomas Girard 在 2022年1月3日 星期一下午5:59:42 [UTC+8] 的信中寫道：
> mmmm.. I think MLO is a personal outliner. not a team Project management > tool. For project management you need something else. Like ASANA, > Openproject or something else. > > Le lun. 3 janv. 2022 à 10:54, KC Yang <[email protected]> a écrit : > >> A webapp version could be helpful for project collaboration by multiple >> users while personal important GTD can still place in MLO app, just my 2 >> cents. >> >> On Monday, 3 January 2022 at 17:45:57 UTC+8 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> MLO is powerfull because this is a software... and not an APP in a >>> browser. I have tested CHECKVIST and Dynalist during 1 year, which are the >>> most advanced Wep outliner son the market and guess what... I'm moving back >>> to MLO on Desktop and my productivity is finaly as high as it should be. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Le vendredi 19 novembre 2021 à 03:07:27 UTC+1, imajeff a écrit : >>> >>>> Just keep in mind a few things: >>>> >>>> - The leaks and compromized passwords are not happening all over >>>> because they were "web apps". They happen the same whether it is web >>>> app, >>>> other type of server, and home computers. >>>> - One of the most talked about ways these days is social >>>> engineering (you were tricked into doing something) >>>> - Frankly, your own computer and everything on it's drives is not >>>> protected if you (1) have any amount of access to the Internet on your >>>> computer, (2) run any software not written by yourself because who can >>>> you >>>> trust, (3) your own software had a flaw that someone was able to >>>> exploit. >>>> - Those common holes in your local security are not even about >>>> whether your password was easy to guess for a hacker that can try >>>> passwords >>>> more than a million guesses per second. >>>> - For the infamous "wannacry" attacks, it was strictly the OS >>>> itself (like Windows XP with all updated security patches installed) >>>> which >>>> the users could not trust. The only way was to pull the plug on the >>>> Internet to be sure you were save from bad stuff being ran on your >>>> computer >>>> by hackers. >>>> >>>> So yeah there is a choice not to put our own data on the cloud for now, >>>> but we need to understand a lot more than that to protect ourselves these >>>> days. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 3:45:42 AM UTC-7 >>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Encryption of the database itself would be an additional level of >>>>> security, but the truth is, as we see from data leaks and compromised >>>>> passwords, that are regularly in the news, so far there is no truly >>>>> secure >>>>> way of running the internet and webapps. >>>>> >>>>> But webapps which reflect the current data, working with device apps >>>>> which have much shared design and code, are also an attractive option, >>>>> and >>>>> I use some alongside MLO. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously the user decides, with any app, whether some data is best >>>>> kept offline for personal security. >>>>> >>>>> Laurence >>>>> On Tuesday, 16 November 2021 at 13:13:46 UTC Dwight wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Let me try to explain the security issue and why the expensive and >>>>>> burdensome task or maintaining separate code bases would do nothing to >>>>>> solve this. >>>>>> >>>>>> If a web app is going to work with your tasks, it needs read/write >>>>>> access to some database where your tasks are kept. The obvious choice >>>>>> would >>>>>> be the cloud synch database. But exposing your tasks to an internet app >>>>>> also exposes everyone else's tasks to the internet. You may not care if >>>>>> a >>>>>> hacker has access to your task list but there are some users who would >>>>>> object. It makes no difference whether you are I are on the same code >>>>>> base, >>>>>> if your app has access to the cloud synch database then my tasks are at >>>>>> the >>>>>> same risk as yours. The way to manage this risk would be to incorporate >>>>>> security enhancements into the cloud synch database. For example, >>>>>> encrypting the data in the cloud sync database. This way, you would have >>>>>> the freedom to unlock your own tasks to your web app plus any attackers >>>>>> from the Internet who take an interest, while I would be able to leave >>>>>> my >>>>>> tasks secured. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Dwight >>>>>> On 11/10/2021 06:02, Laurence Glazier wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I would certainly like this, and for the view designs to likewise be >>>>>> common to all devices. Everything drawn from the web. When MLO started, >>>>>> there was no such thing as a webapp. I am a paid-up supporter of MLO on >>>>>> Apple, Windows and Android, but would prefer an equivalent monthly sub >>>>>> together with a webapp. But I also like knowing I can keep the app >>>>>> versions >>>>>> I have paid for forever! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, 22 October 2021 at 02:30:14 UTC+1 imajeff wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you realize how old MyLifeOrganized still is, I'm sure it's based >>>>>>> on MFC, using Windows 98 technology wherever possible. It would not be >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> them to create a whole new cloud-based application, but if they did, >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> would be paying by the month not for installation license so it is a >>>>>>> whole >>>>>>> new ballpark if they tried that. I would be very surprised, as it has >>>>>>> been >>>>>>> so awkward just getting to where they could syncronize data via the >>>>>>> cloud. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like to hear what Andre thinks these days about making a whole >>>>>>> new codebase for that, because more than a decade ago I could see why >>>>>>> he >>>>>>> didn't finish the Linux version either, and later gets a lot of flak >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> not haveing one also for Apple OS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 2:09:02 PM UTC-6 [email protected] >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He'd have to have two separate systems then. Keep what there is now >>>>>>>> for those who want it and have the web version for those who want it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All I know is there was a web version of MLO, if it were possible, >>>>>>>> that is, it would do well because other former (or maybe current?) >>>>>>>> users of >>>>>>>> MLO are in the forums for other apps like TickTick and ClickUp making >>>>>>>> requests for features that MLO already has. It's only a matter of time >>>>>>>> until what Andrey is offering is easily found online. Regardless, I've >>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>> to move to something else that doesn't keep me restricted to the >>>>>>>> desktop or >>>>>>>> key fob because I use the calendar sync and the mobile apps don't have >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 2:44:49 PM UTC-4 Dwight wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You may have missed my point. If I use MLO/desktop AND I use cloud >>>>>>>>> sync, and you use MLO/webwhich is attached to the cloud file, then my >>>>>>>>> data >>>>>>>>> will be insecure even if I myself never use MLO/web. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you want me to explain this, write to me at [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Dwight >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On October 21, 2021 10:56:49 Joel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Andrey could still keep MLO for desktop for those who are >>>>>>>>>> paranoid about that. I'm just asking for an online version for those >>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>> aren't. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 5:30:04 PM UTC-4 Dwight wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Joel. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Where will this app obtain access to my tasks? The most logical. >>>>>>>>>>> and easiest to program, would be to simply take the data from the >>>>>>>>>>> cloud >>>>>>>>>>> sync file.But that would be a problem for me. I already consider >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> security of the cloud sync file to be an area for concern. If any >>>>>>>>>>> miscreant >>>>>>>>>>> who has an app and can guess or steal my password can retrieve all >>>>>>>>>>> my tasks >>>>>>>>>>> I would consider MLO cloud sync to be profoundly insecure. That >>>>>>>>>>> would be a >>>>>>>>>>> shame because I really like MLO cloud sync. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -Dwight >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/20/2021 13:12, Joel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I could go into the reasons why I want it but mainly just want >>>>>>>>>>> to know if there's a web version of MLO in the works? I've applied >>>>>>>>>>> a few >>>>>>>>>>> times to rejoin the beta group but have heard nothing from Andrey >>>>>>>>>>> so it >>>>>>>>>>> makes me wonder if there still is a beta group or if there is a >>>>>>>>>>> version 6 >>>>>>>>>>> in the works so what's the word humming birds? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/f34a65b2-fe17-489d-b474-8f38fd8f8e03n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/f34a65b2-fe17-489d-b474-8f38fd8f8e03n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/5f853f65-e505-41a1-9c45-d4ae84819257n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/5f853f65-e505-41a1-9c45-d4ae84819257n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/e438f17d-1faa-413c-ba1a-ddd85123694fn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/e438f17d-1faa-413c-ba1a-ddd85123694fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/mylifeorganized/P02h0cplNqU/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/b10da7f2-a91b-444f-9b67-aad28464e69en%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/b10da7f2-a91b-444f-9b67-aad28464e69en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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