A webapp version could be helpful for project collaboration by multiple users while personal important GTD can still place in MLO app, just my 2 cents.
On Monday, 3 January 2022 at 17:45:57 UTC+8 [email protected] wrote: > MLO is powerfull because this is a software... and not an APP in a > browser. I have tested CHECKVIST and Dynalist during 1 year, which are the > most advanced Wep outliner son the market and guess what... I'm moving back > to MLO on Desktop and my productivity is finaly as high as it should be. > > > > > Le vendredi 19 novembre 2021 à 03:07:27 UTC+1, imajeff a écrit : > >> Just keep in mind a few things: >> >> - The leaks and compromized passwords are not happening all over >> because they were "web apps". They happen the same whether it is web app, >> other type of server, and home computers. >> - One of the most talked about ways these days is social engineering >> (you were tricked into doing something) >> - Frankly, your own computer and everything on it's drives is not >> protected if you (1) have any amount of access to the Internet on your >> computer, (2) run any software not written by yourself because who can >> you >> trust, (3) your own software had a flaw that someone was able to exploit. >> - Those common holes in your local security are not even about >> whether your password was easy to guess for a hacker that can try >> passwords >> more than a million guesses per second. >> - For the infamous "wannacry" attacks, it was strictly the OS itself >> (like Windows XP with all updated security patches installed) which the >> users could not trust. The only way was to pull the plug on the Internet >> to >> be sure you were save from bad stuff being ran on your computer by >> hackers. >> >> So yeah there is a choice not to put our own data on the cloud for now, >> but we need to understand a lot more than that to protect ourselves these >> days. >> >> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 3:45:42 AM UTC-7 [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Encryption of the database itself would be an additional level of >>> security, but the truth is, as we see from data leaks and compromised >>> passwords, that are regularly in the news, so far there is no truly secure >>> way of running the internet and webapps. >>> >>> But webapps which reflect the current data, working with device apps >>> which have much shared design and code, are also an attractive option, and >>> I use some alongside MLO. >>> >>> Obviously the user decides, with any app, whether some data is best kept >>> offline for personal security. >>> >>> Laurence >>> On Tuesday, 16 November 2021 at 13:13:46 UTC Dwight wrote: >>> >>>> Let me try to explain the security issue and why the expensive and >>>> burdensome task or maintaining separate code bases would do nothing to >>>> solve this. >>>> >>>> If a web app is going to work with your tasks, it needs read/write >>>> access to some database where your tasks are kept. The obvious choice >>>> would >>>> be the cloud synch database. But exposing your tasks to an internet app >>>> also exposes everyone else's tasks to the internet. You may not care if a >>>> hacker has access to your task list but there are some users who would >>>> object. It makes no difference whether you are I are on the same code >>>> base, >>>> if your app has access to the cloud synch database then my tasks are at >>>> the >>>> same risk as yours. The way to manage this risk would be to incorporate >>>> security enhancements into the cloud synch database. For example, >>>> encrypting the data in the cloud sync database. This way, you would have >>>> the freedom to unlock your own tasks to your web app plus any attackers >>>> from the Internet who take an interest, while I would be able to leave my >>>> tasks secured. >>>> >>>> -Dwight >>>> On 11/10/2021 06:02, Laurence Glazier wrote: >>>> >>>> I would certainly like this, and for the view designs to likewise be >>>> common to all devices. Everything drawn from the web. When MLO started, >>>> there was no such thing as a webapp. I am a paid-up supporter of MLO on >>>> Apple, Windows and Android, but would prefer an equivalent monthly sub >>>> together with a webapp. But I also like knowing I can keep the app >>>> versions >>>> I have paid for forever! >>>> >>>> On Friday, 22 October 2021 at 02:30:14 UTC+1 imajeff wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do you realize how old MyLifeOrganized still is, I'm sure it's based >>>>> on MFC, using Windows 98 technology wherever possible. It would not be >>>>> like >>>>> them to create a whole new cloud-based application, but if they did, you >>>>> would be paying by the month not for installation license so it is a >>>>> whole >>>>> new ballpark if they tried that. I would be very surprised, as it has >>>>> been >>>>> so awkward just getting to where they could syncronize data via the >>>>> cloud. >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to hear what Andre thinks these days about making a whole new >>>>> codebase for that, because more than a decade ago I could see why he >>>>> didn't >>>>> finish the Linux version either, and later gets a lot of flak for not >>>>> haveing one also for Apple OS. >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 2:09:02 PM UTC-6 [email protected] >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> He'd have to have two separate systems then. Keep what there is now >>>>>> for those who want it and have the web version for those who want it. >>>>>> >>>>>> All I know is there was a web version of MLO, if it were possible, >>>>>> that is, it would do well because other former (or maybe current?) users >>>>>> of >>>>>> MLO are in the forums for other apps like TickTick and ClickUp making >>>>>> requests for features that MLO already has. It's only a matter of time >>>>>> until what Andrey is offering is easily found online. Regardless, I've >>>>>> got >>>>>> to move to something else that doesn't keep me restricted to the desktop >>>>>> or >>>>>> key fob because I use the calendar sync and the mobile apps don't have >>>>>> it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 2:44:49 PM UTC-4 Dwight wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You may have missed my point. If I use MLO/desktop AND I use cloud >>>>>>> sync, and you use MLO/webwhich is attached to the cloud file, then my >>>>>>> data >>>>>>> will be insecure even if I myself never use MLO/web. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you want me to explain this, write to me at [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Dwight >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On October 21, 2021 10:56:49 Joel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andrey could still keep MLO for desktop for those who are paranoid >>>>>>>> about that. I'm just asking for an online version for those who aren't. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 5:30:04 PM UTC-4 Dwight wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, Joel. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Where will this app obtain access to my tasks? The most logical. >>>>>>>>> and easiest to program, would be to simply take the data from the >>>>>>>>> cloud >>>>>>>>> sync file.But that would be a problem for me. I already consider the >>>>>>>>> security of the cloud sync file to be an area for concern. If any >>>>>>>>> miscreant >>>>>>>>> who has an app and can guess or steal my password can retrieve all my >>>>>>>>> tasks >>>>>>>>> I would consider MLO cloud sync to be profoundly insecure. That would >>>>>>>>> be a >>>>>>>>> shame because I really like MLO cloud sync. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Dwight >>>>>>>>> On 10/20/2021 13:12, Joel wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I could go into the reasons why I want it but mainly just want to >>>>>>>>> know if there's a web version of MLO in the works? I've applied a few >>>>>>>>> times >>>>>>>>> to rejoin the beta group but have heard nothing from Andrey so it >>>>>>>>> makes me >>>>>>>>> wonder if there still is a beta group or if there is a version 6 in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> works so what's the word humming birds? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/f34a65b2-fe17-489d-b474-8f38fd8f8e03n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/f34a65b2-fe17-489d-b474-8f38fd8f8e03n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/5f853f65-e505-41a1-9c45-d4ae84819257n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/5f853f65-e505-41a1-9c45-d4ae84819257n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/e438f17d-1faa-413c-ba1a-ddd85123694fn%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mylifeorganized/e438f17d-1faa-413c-ba1a-ddd85123694fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MyLifeOrganized" group. 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