mmmm.. I think MLO is a personal outliner. not a team Project management
tool. For project management you need something else. Like ASANA,
Openproject or something else.

Le lun. 3 janv. 2022 à 10:54, KC Yang <[email protected]> a écrit :

> A webapp version could be helpful for project collaboration by multiple
> users while personal important GTD can still place in MLO app, just my 2
> cents.
>
> On Monday, 3 January 2022 at 17:45:57 UTC+8 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> MLO is powerfull because this is a software... and not an APP in a
>> browser. I have tested CHECKVIST and Dynalist during 1 year, which are the
>> most advanced Wep outliner son the market and guess what... I'm moving back
>> to MLO on Desktop and my productivity is finaly as high as it should be.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le vendredi 19 novembre 2021 à 03:07:27 UTC+1, imajeff a écrit :
>>
>>> Just keep in mind a few things:
>>>
>>>    - The leaks and compromized passwords are not happening all over
>>>    because they were "web apps". They happen the same whether it is web app,
>>>    other type of server, and home computers.
>>>    - One of the most talked about ways these days is social engineering
>>>    (you were tricked into doing something)
>>>    - Frankly, your own computer and everything on it's drives is not
>>>    protected if you (1) have any amount of access to the Internet on your
>>>    computer, (2) run any software not written by yourself because who can 
>>> you
>>>    trust, (3) your own software had a flaw that someone was able to exploit.
>>>    - Those common holes in your local security are not even about
>>>    whether your password was easy to guess for a hacker that can try 
>>> passwords
>>>    more than a million guesses per second.
>>>    - For the infamous "wannacry" attacks, it was strictly the OS itself
>>>    (like Windows XP with all updated security patches installed) which the
>>>    users could not trust. The only way was to pull the plug on the Internet 
>>> to
>>>    be sure you were save from bad stuff being ran on your computer by 
>>> hackers.
>>>
>>> So yeah there is a choice not to put our own data on the cloud for now,
>>> but we need to understand a lot more than that to protect ourselves these
>>> days.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 3:45:42 AM UTC-7 [email protected]
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Encryption of the database itself would be an additional level of
>>>> security, but the truth is, as we see from data leaks and compromised
>>>> passwords, that are regularly in the news, so far there is no truly secure
>>>> way of running the internet and webapps.
>>>>
>>>> But webapps which reflect the current data, working with device apps
>>>> which have much shared design and code, are also an attractive option, and
>>>> I use some alongside MLO.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously the user decides, with any app, whether some data is best
>>>> kept offline for personal security.
>>>>
>>>> Laurence
>>>> On Tuesday, 16 November 2021 at 13:13:46 UTC Dwight wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Let me try to explain the security issue and why the expensive and
>>>>> burdensome task or maintaining separate code bases would do nothing to
>>>>> solve this.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a web app is going to work with your tasks, it needs read/write
>>>>> access to some database where your tasks are kept. The obvious choice 
>>>>> would
>>>>> be the cloud synch database. But exposing your tasks to an internet app
>>>>> also exposes everyone else's tasks to the internet. You may not care if a
>>>>> hacker has access to your task list but there are some users who would
>>>>> object. It makes no difference whether you are I are on the same code 
>>>>> base,
>>>>> if your app has access to the cloud synch database then my tasks are at 
>>>>> the
>>>>> same risk as yours. The way to manage this risk would be to incorporate
>>>>> security enhancements into the cloud synch database. For example,
>>>>> encrypting the data in the cloud sync database. This way, you would have
>>>>> the freedom to unlock your own tasks to your web app plus any attackers
>>>>> from the Internet who take an interest, while I would be able to leave my
>>>>> tasks secured.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Dwight
>>>>> On 11/10/2021 06:02, Laurence Glazier wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would certainly like this, and for the view designs to likewise be
>>>>> common to all devices. Everything drawn from the web. When MLO started,
>>>>> there was no such thing as a webapp. I am a paid-up supporter of MLO on
>>>>> Apple, Windows and Android, but would prefer an equivalent monthly sub
>>>>> together with a webapp. But I also like knowing I can keep the app 
>>>>> versions
>>>>> I have paid for forever!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, 22 October 2021 at 02:30:14 UTC+1 imajeff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you realize how old MyLifeOrganized still is, I'm sure it's based
>>>>>> on MFC, using Windows 98 technology wherever possible. It would not be 
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> them to create a whole new cloud-based application, but if they did, you
>>>>>> would be paying by the month not for installation license so it is a 
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> new ballpark if they tried that. I would be very surprised, as it has 
>>>>>> been
>>>>>> so awkward just getting to where they could syncronize data via the 
>>>>>> cloud.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to hear what Andre thinks these days about making a whole
>>>>>> new codebase for that, because more than a decade ago I could see why he
>>>>>> didn't finish the Linux version either, and later gets a lot of flak for
>>>>>> not haveing one also for Apple OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 2:09:02 PM UTC-6 [email protected]
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He'd have to have two separate systems then. Keep what there is now
>>>>>>> for those who want it and have the web version for those who want it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  All I know is there was a web version of MLO, if it were possible,
>>>>>>> that is, it would do well because other former (or maybe current?) 
>>>>>>> users of
>>>>>>> MLO are in the forums for other apps like TickTick and ClickUp making
>>>>>>> requests for features that MLO already has. It's only a matter of time
>>>>>>> until what Andrey is offering is easily found online. Regardless, I've 
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>> to move to something else that doesn't keep me restricted to the 
>>>>>>> desktop or
>>>>>>> key fob because I use the calendar sync and the mobile apps don't have 
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 2:44:49 PM UTC-4 Dwight wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You may have missed my point. If I use MLO/desktop AND I use cloud
>>>>>>>> sync, and you use MLO/webwhich is attached to the cloud file, then my 
>>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>>> will be insecure even if I myself never use MLO/web.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you want me to explain this, write to me at [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Dwight
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On October 21, 2021 10:56:49 Joel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andrey could still keep MLO for desktop for those who are paranoid
>>>>>>>>> about that. I'm just asking for an online version for those who 
>>>>>>>>> aren't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 5:30:04 PM UTC-4 Dwight wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Joel.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where will this app obtain access to my tasks? The most logical.
>>>>>>>>>> and easiest to program, would be to simply take the data from the 
>>>>>>>>>> cloud
>>>>>>>>>> sync file.But that would be a problem for me. I already consider the
>>>>>>>>>> security of the cloud sync file to be an area for concern. If any 
>>>>>>>>>> miscreant
>>>>>>>>>> who has an app and can guess or steal my password can retrieve all 
>>>>>>>>>> my tasks
>>>>>>>>>> I would consider MLO cloud sync to be profoundly insecure. That 
>>>>>>>>>> would be a
>>>>>>>>>> shame because I really like MLO cloud sync.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Dwight
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/20/2021 13:12, Joel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I could go into the reasons why I want it but mainly just want to
>>>>>>>>>> know if there's a web version of MLO in the works? I've applied a 
>>>>>>>>>> few times
>>>>>>>>>> to rejoin the beta group but have heard nothing from Andrey so it 
>>>>>>>>>> makes me
>>>>>>>>>> wonder if there still is a beta group or if there is a version 6 in 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> works so what's the word humming birds?
>>>>>>>>>>
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