Wow KC I don't think that assumption is worth 2 cents to anyone actually trying to manage team projects if they were properly trained to use commercial solutions. Still, that debate is quite off-topic from the question here.
I agree it would help a lot to have capability for at least my family to use a web app version so we could all see the same tasks wherever we are. I just don't think the MLO code was written so far in a way that would make the web app possible. In other words, pretty much a total recreation online, would have to have clear technical documentation on how every feature has to work so that it could be compatible. On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 6:28:32 AM UTC-6 KC Yang (KC) wrote: > I think there is a fine line between what MLO can do. Just my 2 cents. > > Thomas Girard 在 2022年1月3日 星期一下午5:59:42 [UTC+8] 的信中寫道： > >> mmmm.. I think MLO is a personal outliner. not a team Project management >> tool. For project management you need something else. Like ASANA, >> Openproject or something else. >> >> Le lun. 3 janv. 2022 à 10:54, KC Yang <[email protected]> a écrit : >> >>> A webapp version could be helpful for project collaboration by multiple >>> users while personal important GTD can still place in MLO app, just my 2 >>> cents. >>> >>> On Monday, 3 January 2022 at 17:45:57 UTC+8 [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> MLO is powerfull because this is a software... and not an APP in a >>>> browser. I have tested CHECKVIST and Dynalist during 1 year, which are the >>>> most advanced Wep outliner son the market and guess what... I'm moving >>>> back >>>> to MLO on Desktop and my productivity is finaly as high as it should be. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le vendredi 19 novembre 2021 à 03:07:27 UTC+1, imajeff a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Just keep in mind a few things: >>>>> >>>>> - The leaks and compromized passwords are not happening all over >>>>> because they were "web apps". They happen the same whether it is web >>>>> app, >>>>> other type of server, and home computers. >>>>> - One of the most talked about ways these days is social >>>>> engineering (you were tricked into doing something) >>>>> - Frankly, your own computer and everything on it's drives is not >>>>> protected if you (1) have any amount of access to the Internet on your >>>>> computer, (2) run any software not written by yourself because who can >>>>> you >>>>> trust, (3) your own software had a flaw that someone was able to >>>>> exploit. >>>>> - Those common holes in your local security are not even about >>>>> whether your password was easy to guess for a hacker that can try >>>>> passwords >>>>> more than a million guesses per second. >>>>> - For the infamous "wannacry" attacks, it was strictly the OS >>>>> itself (like Windows XP with all updated security patches installed) >>>>> which >>>>> the users could not trust. The only way was to pull the plug on the >>>>> Internet to be sure you were save from bad stuff being ran on your >>>>> computer >>>>> by hackers. >>>>> >>>>> So yeah there is a choice not to put our own data on the cloud for >>>>> now, but we need to understand a lot more than that to protect ourselves >>>>> these days. >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 3:45:42 AM UTC-7 >>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Encryption of the database itself would be an additional level of >>>>>> security, but the truth is, as we see from data leaks and compromised >>>>>> passwords, that are regularly in the news, so far there is no truly >>>>>> secure >>>>>> way of running the internet and webapps. >>>>>> >>>>>> But webapps which reflect the current data, working with device apps >>>>>> which have much shared design and code, are also an attractive option, >>>>>> and >>>>>> I use some alongside MLO. >>>>>> >>>>>> Obviously the user decides, with any app, whether some data is best >>>>>> kept offline for personal security. >>>>>> >>>>>> Laurence >>>>>> On Tuesday, 16 November 2021 at 13:13:46 UTC Dwight wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me try to explain the security issue and why the expensive and >>>>>>> burdensome task or maintaining separate code bases would do nothing to >>>>>>> solve this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If a web app is going to work with your tasks, it needs read/write >>>>>>> access to some database where your tasks are kept. The obvious choice >>>>>>> would >>>>>>> be the cloud synch database. But exposing your tasks to an internet app >>>>>>> also exposes everyone else's tasks to the internet. You may not care if >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> hacker has access to your task list but there are some users who would >>>>>>> object. It makes no difference whether you are I are on the same code >>>>>>> base, >>>>>>> if your app has access to the cloud synch database then my tasks are at >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> same risk as yours. The way to manage this risk would be to incorporate >>>>>>> security enhancements into the cloud synch database. For example, >>>>>>> encrypting the data in the cloud sync database. This way, you would >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> the freedom to unlock your own tasks to your web app plus any attackers >>>>>>> from the Internet who take an interest, while I would be able to leave >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> tasks secured. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Dwight >>>>>>> On 11/10/2021 06:02, Laurence Glazier wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would certainly like this, and for the view designs to likewise be >>>>>>> common to all devices. Everything drawn from the web. When MLO started, >>>>>>> there was no such thing as a webapp. I am a paid-up supporter of MLO on >>>>>>> Apple, Windows and Android, but would prefer an equivalent monthly sub >>>>>>> together with a webapp. But I also like knowing I can keep the app >>>>>>> versions >>>>>>> I have paid for forever! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, 22 October 2021 at 02:30:14 UTC+1 imajeff wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you realize how old MyLifeOrganized still is, I'm sure it's >>>>>>>> based on MFC, using Windows 98 technology wherever possible. It would >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> be like them to create a whole new cloud-based application, but if >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> did, you would be paying by the month not for installation license so >>>>>>>> it is >>>>>>>> a whole new ballpark if they tried that. I would be very surprised, as >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> has been so awkward just getting to where they could syncronize data >>>>>>>> via >>>>>>>> the cloud. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd like to hear what Andre thinks these days about making a whole >>>>>>>> new codebase for that, because more than a decade ago I could see why >>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>> didn't finish the Linux version either, and later gets a lot of flak >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> not haveing one also for Apple OS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 2:09:02 PM UTC-6 >>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He'd have to have two separate systems then. Keep what there is >>>>>>>>> now for those who want it and have the web version for those who want >>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All I know is there was a web version of MLO, if it were >>>>>>>>> possible, that is, it would do well because other former (or maybe >>>>>>>>> current?) users of MLO are in the forums for other apps like TickTick >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> ClickUp making requests for features that MLO already has. It's only >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> matter of time until what Andrey is offering is easily found online. >>>>>>>>> Regardless, I've got to move to something else that doesn't keep me >>>>>>>>> restricted to the desktop or key fob because I use the calendar sync >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> the mobile apps don't have it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 2:44:49 PM UTC-4 Dwight wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You may have missed my point. If I use MLO/desktop AND I use >>>>>>>>>> cloud sync, and you use MLO/webwhich is attached to the cloud file, >>>>>>>>>> then my >>>>>>>>>> data will be insecure even if I myself never use MLO/web. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you want me to explain this, write to me at [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Dwight >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On October 21, 2021 10:56:49 Joel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Andrey could still keep MLO for desktop for those who are >>>>>>>>>>> paranoid about that. I'm just asking for an online version for >>>>>>>>>>> those who >>>>>>>>>>> aren't. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 20, 2021 at 5:30:04 PM UTC-4 Dwight wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Joel. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Where will this app obtain access to my tasks? The most >>>>>>>>>>>> logical. and easiest to program, would be to simply take the data >>>>>>>>>>>> from the >>>>>>>>>>>> cloud sync file.But that would be a problem for me. I already >>>>>>>>>>>> consider the >>>>>>>>>>>> security of the cloud sync file to be an area for concern. If any >>>>>>>>>>>> miscreant >>>>>>>>>>>> who has an app and can guess or steal my password can retrieve all >>>>>>>>>>>> my tasks >>>>>>>>>>>> I would consider MLO cloud sync to be profoundly insecure. That >>>>>>>>>>>> would be a >>>>>>>>>>>> shame because I really like MLO cloud sync. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Dwight >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/20/2021 13:12, Joel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I could go into the reasons why I want it but mainly just want >>>>>>>>>>>> to know if there's a web version of MLO in the works? 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