OK - I went back and looked at your traces (they were confusing me because 
of the labels - but looked at the assignments you made).  It is clear in 
first example that the rising edge of U15_out is in the middle of DO0 being 
low which is good.  In the second trace on the rising edge of U15_out, DO0 
is also rising - you are in no man's land definite race condition.  DO0 is 
too late in the cycle - I don't understand why it is late in that case but 
correct in Trace 1.  It looks like if U15_out had an inverter in line 
before the clock input then the circuit would work?  Aren't the S100 
signals valid on falling edge not rising edge and the flip-flop is 
triggered on rising edge causing the race condition ?

Dave

On Monday, June 9, 2014 1:13:55 PM UTC-5, Thomas Owen wrote:
>
> UPDATE:
>
> If I manually set pin 2 of the flip flop to either high or Low then the 
> Drive Select works.  
>
> *pin 2 held high, console out DO34,01 changes to Drive B.*
>
> It appears to me that the FF is always clocking in a 0 due to timing on 
> the input.
>
> I have two different CPU's in a IMSAI chassis (with front panel).  CPU is 
> a Cromemco ZPU and the other is the IMSAI 8080 - both exhibit same behavior.
>
> DO0 definitely changes (see the earlier screen shots) for the different 
> commands 'QO34,00' and 'QO34,01'.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, June 8, 2014 7:58:45 PM UTC-4, Thomas Owen wrote:
>>
>> All,
>> I had posted this to the thread dealing with ordering this card, but 
>> decided to post a new topic dealing with the problem I have had with final 
>> checkout of the board.
>>
>> During assembly the board passed all the 'in progress' checks.  The final 
>> steps were to output to different ports:
>>
>>
>> I have output the following and everything passes:
>>
>> QO33,80 ; Configures ports A, B and C as output ports
>> QO32,2B ; Selects right hand pair of digits
>> QO30,01; display 01on right digit pair and work through each bit - all ok
>>
>> QO32,2c; Selects middle pair of digits
>> QO30,01; Should display 01 on middle digit pair, work through each bit - 
>> all ok
>>
>> QO32,2d; Selects left hand pair of digits
>> QO31,01; Should display 01 on left digit pair, work through each bit - 
>> all ok
>>
>> All displays are correct.
>>
>> Now the final step is the Drive Select and that is where I am having 
>> trouble:
>>
>> Board always comes up with 'Drive A' selected
>>
>> Now,  QO34,0; no change
>>
>> Reset, start again:
>>
>> QO34,1; no change
>>
>> I can never select drive B.   
>>
>> Several generous members (thank you David Fry) have made suggestions, and 
>> here is where I now stand:
>>
>> My preliminary check this afternoon shows me that there is a timing issue 
>> at U15, the 74ls02.  Using my logic analyzer and monitoring the inputs and 
>> the output (which clocks the drive select flip flop) I see a big timing 
>> difference between SEL_SECOND and WR.
>>
>> What this means is that the output of the gate never goes high allowing 
>> the bit change to effect drive change/selection.
>>
>> I am going to get some screen shots from the analyzer tomorrow, and if 
>> anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Thomas
>>
>>

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