It appears that Mike Hammett via NANOG <[email protected]> said:
>Important in what you said is the ability to seek redress. The Internet often 
>doesn't provide good means of seeking redress.

You can always get a refund of what you paid for the mail they don't deliver.

R's,
John

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <[email protected]>
>To: "North American Network Operators Group" <[email protected]>
>Cc: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, August 18, 2025 9:36:33 AM
>Subject: Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse
>
>
>Truth. Reduced to its simplest terms, if the way you run (or don’t bother to 
>run) your network causes issues to other networks,
>those networks may take whatever action necessary to protect their network, 
>systems and users. 
>
>
>The problem of random, indiscriminate blocking and no possible redress was why 
>these community / industry organizations and best
>practices came about. So there are at least processes that you can follow to 
>get yourself unblocked, worst comes to worst. 
>
>
>The other best practices about keeping bad actors off your network? Well, they 
>seem much more difficult in practice than on paper.
>Even the most proactive organization can’t avoid it 100%, despite their 
>spending time and effort on it. Orgs that don’t care or
>don’t want to know about the problem? No need to say anything further about 
>those. 
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