It appears that Josh Reynolds via NANOG <[email protected]> said:
>Interesting. Do you have any links about this? I was talking to him a few
>months back about some things.

You can read about it in the IETF DKIM working group and its
ietf-dkim mailing list.

Let's just say that Mike and I disagree about its likely utility.

R's,
John



>
>Thanks
>
>On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, 5:16 PM Michael Thomas via NANOG <
>[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 8/19/25 3:13 PM, Josh Reynolds via NANOG wrote:
>> > Holdup. What did I miss about Richard Clayton?
>>
>> If it's the same Richard Clayton as the one I think it is, he's off on a
>> useless adventure to reinvent DKIM for the hell of it, for one.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Tue, Aug 19, 2025, 5:10 PM Christopher Morrow via NANOG <
>> > [email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2025 at 5:54 PM Barry Shein via NANOG
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Are there any good sources breaking down spam (et al) behavior?
>> >> <snip>
>> >>
>> >>> But my question is whether anyone is already doing this?
>> >>>
>> >> I think you want to find Suresh and the SpamHaus folks (at least)
>> >> (they are different orgs with slightly different views)
>> >>
>> >> On the past I'd also have said: "And Richard Clayton" but :( <sad panda>
>> >> There's been a bunch of presentation work on these things over the
>> years...
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