@threeneurons, that is very sensible. As someone who had their identity 
stolen I am very wary about any of this. BTW 'stolen identity' does not 
mean they got my credit card info. It means they got my identity and went 
around opening their own credit cards in my name, using my address and my 
social security number. This year we found out that my son also got his 
identity stolen - someone filed their taxes using his information (I still 
don't see the benefit of that).

Anyway, I stopped selling online after paypal sent me a 1099. The extra 
hassle filing taxes isn't worth it for the small amount of money I get from 
selling.

On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 6:29:12 PM UTC-4 threeneurons wrote:

> eBay has been doing this now, for about a year and a half. I've had no 
> problems, so far. Initially, I didn't understand why they did this, only a 
> few years after selling off Paypal. So It seemed kinda stupid. But I think 
> it has to do with some legal changes both in the US and in Europe. In the 
> US, all online transactions need to include the sales tax of the buyer's 
> state. In Europe, they want the VAT collected at time of purchase. When 
> eBay took over handling the payments, they take care of both of those. 
> Sales tax and VAT get routed directly from the buyer to eBay, and (I 
> assume) to the respective government agency. I only get the item's price, 
> shipping (that I established), less eBay's fees (~10%). They deposit that 
> amount to my bank account, either daily, or weekly, dependent on the 
> sellers preference.
>
> I Long ago set up a different bank account, at a whole different bank, 
> just for online stuff. That way if either eBay or Paypal get hacked, only 
> this "online use" account is exposed. Your SSN is needed, if and when they 
> issue 1099s.
>
> Of course, all banks now, have an on line presents, so with my luck, my 
> main bank gets breached, while the small sum, at the "online use" bank 
> stays unaffected.
>
> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 1:45:37 PM UTC-7 Pramanicin wrote:
>
>> Etsy sellers have nixies etc on them....I quite liked that platform in 
>> the beginning, but slowly their commissions grew higher and I gave up using 
>> it as a seller.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 1:30 PM 'Grahame' via neonixie-l <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> So far I've not had a problem with eBay or Paypal but then I think I 
>>> have been following their rules when both buying and selling.
>>>
>>> I tried to open an account to buy through Alibaba house of horrors and 
>>> they asked for a photograph of my passport, proof of my home address and a 
>>> photo of the credit card I was going to use. I just deleted the email and 
>>> all those that followed asking me to pay for the goods in my basket. 
>>> Eventually they stopped and I've not tried again.
>>>
>>> Grahame
>>> On 31/03/2022 21:01, Jim KO5V wrote:
>>>
>>> Good Afternoon,
>>>
>>> For the last couple of years, I have avoided giving eBay my bank info 
>>> and SS #.  I always use PayPal on line, mainly because in my simple mind, 
>>> keeping my information in one place, rather than spreading it out all over 
>>> the web lowers the odds of having that info stolen. Several years ago,  a 
>>> couple of my CC #s were stolen when on-line merchants were hacked, so I am 
>>> probably a bit over-sensitive.
>>>
>>> I guess eBay wants to dump PayPal and "float" the money themselves, so 
>>> now I'm no longer allowed to sell unless I give them my bank info and SS# 
>>> info. I am not comfortable doing this. I still can buy on eBay with a 
>>> credit card (or PP until they get rid of it). My credit cards are protected 
>>> by their issuing banks, so if they are compromised. I'm OK.  
>>>
>>> I'm just curious how other people on this list feel about this 
>>> situations. Is there a viable alternative to eBay?
>>>
>>> BTW, eBay is holding about $7.00 from a sale I made a couple of months 
>>> ago, and they won't release it until they have my bank info. I think I'll 
>>> let it ride, and see how they handle it.
>>>
>>> Thanks. Jim
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