The only bad eBay experience I’ve had was when I ordered 80 NL-5853s for about 
a dollar a piece...needless to say, this was too good to be true and the seller 
kept sending messages about why they couldn’t send the package, and then went 
radio silent. I will say that the process of getting a refund was quite simple 
and easy, so props to eBay on that front.

> On Apr 5, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Nick Andrews <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> I've had pretty good luck as well, but did get screwed over by a dishonest 
> seller a couple years ago where I won a bid on a rare RADIAC set with a very 
> rare probe.  Scumbag canceled the sale (after I paid even) and actually wrote 
> that he couldn't afford to sell it for the closing price because he had more 
> into it than that (which I doubt).  He had listed it as ButItNow at just 
> under $3k for months and months, then finally listed it as an auction, which 
> I won for a reasonable number.  I reported to ebay and they did nothing even 
> though I had it in writing through their messaging system that he was 
> flagrantly violating the rules.  So my hobby is from time to time reporting a 
> bunch of his auctions as fraudulent, stolen, illegal, etc.  Maybe I should 
> buy something really cheap from him so I can get his address.
> 
> But with  several thousand other transactions, not an issue as a buyer or 
> seller on epay, except their increasingly exorbitant fees, and now the tax 
> nonsense.
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 6:40 PM ZY <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I've been buying from ebay/aliexpress/etsy with no issues, I probably have 
>> 500+ transactions over the past 10 years. But as with all internet orders, I 
>> do have the occasional missing item or broken item sent to me. I've gotten 
>> my money back every single time, ebay/aliexpress would 99% of the time side 
>> with the buyer and they'll give you an instant refund.
>> 
>> I also sell on ebay, I think they give you the option now for fees like 
>> shipping costs to be deducted directly from the sale instead of debting from 
>> the bank.
>> 
>> I would trust these large internet vendors with my CC info more than the 
>> restaurant I go to tbh, these large companies have been operating for years 
>> and have millions of dollars pouring into security. The restaurant nearby 
>> who takes my credit card could just be skimming my info at the counter for 
>> all I know. I guess it's a US thing, in Canada they bring the small handheld 
>> CC machine to you so your CC never leaves your hands.
>> 
>>> On Sunday, 3 April 2022 at 07:31:59 UTC-4 Robert G. Schaffrath wrote:
>>> My biggest issues with eBay in the past were not receiving and item though 
>>> it was a rare occurrence. I would contact eBay and they would tell me to 
>>> contact PayPal. Contacted PayPal and they would tell me to contact eBay. 
>>> One big circle j__k. Since the amounts had been under USD$10, I just wrote 
>>> it off. But it has always made me very leery of buying anything on eBay 
>>> though I have not had any issues for many years. When I first opened my 
>>> PayPal account, I too worried about them having my checking account. In the 
>>> end, I opened a second checking account at a different bank right near me 
>>> where I already had a savings account. I keep very little money in the 
>>> account as I can easily transfer money from savings to checking as needed 
>>> (I think back to when I was kid in the 1960's and my father would drive to 
>>> the savings bank, take out money and then drive to the commercial bank to 
>>> put it in the checking account - glad that is a thing of the past). As 
>>> such, there is very little PayPal, or now eBay, can take from me if they 
>>> are hacked or just decide they want some money for some reason.
>>> 
>>>> On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 12:10:32 PM UTC-4 SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I've never had problems with payments on ebay so far, but i have to admit 
>>>> that i think ebay is getting worse and worse every day.
>>>> My biggest issue is that ebay is actively hiding items that can't be 
>>>> delivered to your address. I have multiple addresses for shipping, but 
>>>> only the primary one is considered valid at searches. Its a pain switching 
>>>> between 3 addresses to see "all" items for a specific search.  Not to 
>>>> mention the ridiculous forced translations they do since a while ago...
>>>> 
>>>>> On Saturday, 2 April 2022 at 00:39:29 UTC+2 Jim KO5V wrote:
>>>>> Thanks to everyone who responded. I am very frustrated with eBay, since I 
>>>>> get an email every couple of weeks telling me that "action is required to 
>>>>> put my account back in good standing". It sounds like I am a deadbeat, 
>>>>> rather than a paying customer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had considered opening a 'for internet use only' bank account, but 
>>>>> giving out my social security number is probably always going to be the 
>>>>> real problem. It might already have been compromised, but I guess I just 
>>>>> don't want to volunteer any more information than is necessary.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As I get older, I am wanting to simplify. eBay is convenient, but there 
>>>>> are ham radio sites, etc where I can sell my treasures, so except for the 
>>>>> occasional purchase, I'm  probably done with eBay - after almost 25 years.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Best regards, Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 7:24:15 AM UTC-6 Paul Andrews wrote:
>>>>>> @threeneurons, that is very sensible. As someone who had their identity 
>>>>>> stolen I am very wary about any of this. BTW 'stolen identity' does not 
>>>>>> mean they got my credit card info. It means they got my identity and 
>>>>>> went around opening their own credit cards in my name, using my address 
>>>>>> and my social security number. This year we found out that my son also 
>>>>>> got his identity stolen - someone filed their taxes using his 
>>>>>> information (I still don't see the benefit of that).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyway, I stopped selling online after paypal sent me a 1099. The extra 
>>>>>> hassle filing taxes isn't worth it for the small amount of money I get 
>>>>>> from selling.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 6:29:12 PM UTC-4 threeneurons wrote:
>>>>>>> eBay has been doing this now, for about a year and a half. I've had no 
>>>>>>> problems, so far. Initially, I didn't understand why they did this, 
>>>>>>> only a few years after selling off Paypal. So It seemed kinda stupid. 
>>>>>>> But I think it has to do with some legal changes both in the US and in 
>>>>>>> Europe. In the US, all online transactions need to include the sales 
>>>>>>> tax of the buyer's state. In Europe, they want the VAT collected at 
>>>>>>> time of purchase. When eBay took over handling the payments, they take 
>>>>>>> care of both of those. Sales tax and VAT get routed directly from the 
>>>>>>> buyer to eBay, and (I assume) to the respective government agency. I 
>>>>>>> only get the item's price, shipping (that I established), less eBay's 
>>>>>>> fees (~10%). They deposit that amount to my bank account, either daily, 
>>>>>>> or weekly, dependent on the sellers preference.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I Long ago set up a different bank account, at a whole different bank, 
>>>>>>> just for online stuff. That way if either eBay or Paypal get hacked, 
>>>>>>> only this "online use" account is exposed. Your SSN is needed, if and 
>>>>>>> when they issue 1099s.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Of course, all banks now, have an on line presents, so with my luck, my 
>>>>>>> main bank gets breached, while the small sum, at the "online use" bank 
>>>>>>> stays unaffected.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 1:45:37 PM UTC-7 Pramanicin wrote:
>>>>>>>> Etsy sellers have nixies etc on them....I quite liked that platform in 
>>>>>>>> the beginning, but slowly their commissions grew higher and I gave up 
>>>>>>>> using it as a seller.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 1:30 PM 'Grahame' via neonixie-l 
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So far I've not had a problem with eBay or Paypal but then I think I 
>>>>>>>>> have been following their rules when both buying and selling.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I tried to open an account to buy through Alibaba house of horrors 
>>>>>>>>> and they asked for a photograph of my passport, proof of my home 
>>>>>>>>> address and a photo of the credit card I was going to use. I just 
>>>>>>>>> deleted the email and all those that followed asking me to pay for 
>>>>>>>>> the goods in my basket. Eventually they stopped and I've not tried 
>>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Grahame
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 31/03/2022 21:01, Jim KO5V wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Good Afternoon,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> For the last couple of years, I have avoided giving eBay my bank 
>>>>>>>>>> info and SS #.  I always use PayPal on line, mainly because in my 
>>>>>>>>>> simple mind, keeping my information in one place, rather than 
>>>>>>>>>> spreading it out all over the web lowers the odds of having that 
>>>>>>>>>> info stolen. Several years ago,  a couple of my CC #s were stolen 
>>>>>>>>>> when on-line merchants were hacked, so I am probably a bit 
>>>>>>>>>> over-sensitive.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I guess eBay wants to dump PayPal and "float" the money themselves, 
>>>>>>>>>> so now I'm no longer allowed to sell unless I give them my bank info 
>>>>>>>>>> and SS# info. I am not comfortable doing this. I still can buy on 
>>>>>>>>>> eBay with a credit card (or PP until they get rid of it). My credit 
>>>>>>>>>> cards are protected by their issuing banks, so if they are 
>>>>>>>>>> compromised. I'm OK.  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm just curious how other people on this list feel about this 
>>>>>>>>>> situations. Is there a viable alternative to eBay?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> BTW, eBay is holding about $7.00 from a sale I made a couple of 
>>>>>>>>>> months ago, and they won't release it until they have my bank info. 
>>>>>>>>>> I think I'll let it ride, and see how they handle it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. Jim
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