i guess i should also add that my friend and i are both going into a daw, logic 
8. me through a motu 1224 interface and my friend through apogee rosetta 800 
and ad16x. mine go xlr balanced (for now) from the board to 1/4" balanced on 
the motu, his go 1/4" unbalanced from the board to xlr balanced? on the 
apogees. apogee must accept unbalanced cuz he's using no adapters. neither of 
us have any issues with our setup. the motu accepts both balanced and 
unbalanced. 


--- On Sat, 1/10/09, Frank Moscowitz <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Frank Moscowitz <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: NEOTEK: I am unbalanced...
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 12:11 PM
> Hey Orange -
> 
> My Series 1E has unbalanced outputs and doesn't like
> driving anything that
> is unbalanced with pin 3 in the xlr being signal +.  The
> buss level drops
> when patched into such an input.  This is because doing
> this is basically
> shorting the output of the desk to ground.  Do you know for
> sure that both
> your desk and deck are on the same page of the pin 2 / pin
> 3 story?
> 
> Hey Rofilo - I'm curious to know what transformers they
> used on your
> desk....
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 1:28 AM, rofilo JUAREZ
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > hi, first time poster here. as far as i know the only
> way to balance the
> > board would be to install output transformers on the
> direct outs of every
> > channel. from what i've come to learn about
> neoteks, the fact that it is
> > unbalanced is what helps create the "neotek
> sound". neoteks are
> > transformerless, its something neoteks are known for.
> less stuff in the way
> > that could possibly alter the sound. i have a 26
> channel series 1E that was
> > custom made in '79 for the lincoln center, it was
> used for radio and tv
> > broadcast and is totally balanced including the line
> inputs. it also had a
> > lot of other custom mods and additions. im currently
> in the process of
> > un-modding the board to bring it back to a plain old
> neotek recording
> > console. i've already removed the line input
> transformers and am planning on
> > removing the output transformers. that being said, i
> really dont notice a
> > difference in sound between mine and my friends series
> 1E. they both
> > distinctly have the
> >  neotek sound. his is unbalanced and he has no
> problems with that. i would
> > personally leave it unbalanced.
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Jack Stauss
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Jack Stauss <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: NEOTEK:  I am unbalanced...
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 10:58 PM
> > > My Series one will be here next week and I have
> been
> > > cramming in all the research I can about them as
> I prepare
> > > to refurbish this thing and commission it into my
> studio.
> > >
> > > I have learned that the direct outs on this
> console are
> > > unbalanced and Erik (The guy I bought it off of)
> from this
> > > list was nice enough to send me links explaining
> how to
> > > balance these circuits but I wanted to see if
> anyone here
> > > has ACTUALLY performed this mod.  I am still on
> the fence as
> > > to wether or not it is a necessary procedure so
> any
> > > information you can provide would be greatly
> appreciated.
> > > The console will be a front end to my Pro-tools
> rig and I
> > > will use it for tracking and mixing although I
> have some
> > > high end pre's for the crucial tracking. (I
> realize of
> > > course that they may not be as good as the NEOTEK
> pre's
> > > are but that still remains to be seen.)
> > >
> > > Also, I contacted Sytek about a manual and they
> want over
> > > $200 for one, can I pay anyone here quite a bit
> less for a
> > > copy of theirs (a link to one would be nice too.)
> > >
> > > Thank you and looking forward to the work ahead,
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > >
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