Hi Frank,
 The atr was pin 3 hot but was switched to pin 2 hot along with the mci jh 24 a 
long time ago.
 I was going to bring that up in the earlier post but didn't want to complicate 
the matter.
 The Atr still isn't doesn't like to see an unbalanced feed.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Frank Moscowitz 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:11 PM
  Subject: Re: NEOTEK: I am unbalanced...


  Hey Orange - 

  My Series 1E has unbalanced outputs and doesn't like driving anything that is 
unbalanced with pin 3 in the xlr being signal +.  The buss level drops when 
patched into such an input.  This is because doing this is basically shorting 
the output of the desk to ground.  Do you know for sure that both your desk and 
deck are on the same page of the pin 2 / pin 3 story?

  Hey Rofilo - I'm curious to know what transformers they used on your desk....

  Frank 



  On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 1:28 AM, rofilo JUAREZ <[email protected]> wrote:

    hi, first time poster here. as far as i know the only way to balance the 
board would be to install output transformers on the direct outs of every 
channel. from what i've come to learn about neoteks, the fact that it is 
unbalanced is what helps create the "neotek sound". neoteks are 
transformerless, its something neoteks are known for. less stuff in the way 
that could possibly alter the sound. i have a 26 channel series 1E that was 
custom made in '79 for the lincoln center, it was used for radio and tv 
broadcast and is totally balanced including the line inputs. it also had a lot 
of other custom mods and additions. im currently in the process of un-modding 
the board to bring it back to a plain old neotek recording console. i've 
already removed the line input transformers and am planning on removing the 
output transformers. that being said, i really dont notice a difference in 
sound between mine and my friends series 1E. they both distinctly have the
     neotek sound. his is unbalanced and he has no problems with that. i would 
personally leave it unbalanced.


    --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Jack Stauss <[email protected]> wrote:

    > From: Jack Stauss <[email protected]>
    > Subject: NEOTEK:  I am unbalanced...
    > To: [email protected]
    > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 10:58 PM

    > My Series one will be here next week and I have been
    > cramming in all the research I can about them as I prepare
    > to refurbish this thing and commission it into my studio.
    >
    > I have learned that the direct outs on this console are
    > unbalanced and Erik (The guy I bought it off of) from this
    > list was nice enough to send me links explaining how to
    > balance these circuits but I wanted to see if anyone here
    > has ACTUALLY performed this mod.  I am still on the fence as
    > to wether or not it is a necessary procedure so any
    > information you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
    > The console will be a front end to my Pro-tools rig and I
    > will use it for tracking and mixing although I have some
    > high end pre's for the crucial tracking. (I realize of
    > course that they may not be as good as the NEOTEK pre's
    > are but that still remains to be seen.)
    >
    > Also, I contacted Sytek about a manual and they want over
    > $200 for one, can I pay anyone here quite a bit less for a
    > copy of theirs (a link to one would be nice too.)
    >
    > Thank you and looking forward to the work ahead,
    >
    > Jack
    >
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