In relation to Holly Herndon, " “AI most likely won’t replace musicians outright,” Herndon wrote. “Sentient AI is a fantasy that I think sometimes distracts (often intentionally) from the political economic things that are happening around the tech at the moment.” Herndon went on to discuss the use of automated music systems to make stock music, how drum machines were inspired by the work of great drummers, the role of automated tools in the creation of music, the ethics of using an artificial “disembodied representation of an artist,” and much more."
What disgusts me about this is that music is so much the presence of the musician, performer; this is critical in, for example, Indian and Arabic musics, Jazz, etc. This sounds so white/privileged to me, the position of the listener paramount for example, the relegation of community to reproduction, etc. It's a form of hip effacement. I realize I haven't read everything HH's has written, but there's a fundamental difference between a drum machine and a "great drummer" who came from community, breathes within community, and contributes to community. Thinking for example of free jazz, and the difficulties and explorations of the great players, the relation of that music to the cry, the field holler, the blues, gospel musics, etc. - and I keep returning to white white white white white and privilege. Apologies, Alan, I shouldn't send this out, but watching too many musicians suffer, some of the greatest homeless, and this comes across bad surface. On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 5:59 PM Rob Myers <r...@robmyers.org> wrote: > Zola Jesus, Grimes, and Holly Herndon discuss AI, music and fascism - > > > https://pitchfork.com/news/holly-herndon-weighs-in-on-grimes-and-zola-jesus-debate-about-ai-and-the-future-of-music/ > > > "Artificial Arboretum – Preservation of “photogrammetrees” found in > Google Earth" - > > > https://www.creativeapplications.net/objects/artificial-arboretum-preservation-of-photogrammetrees-found-in-google-earth/ > > > "The Shift to Online Art Sales with Cryptocurrency Artist Laurianna" - > > > https://anchor.fm/cryptoentrepreneurs/episodes/The-Shift-to-Online-Art-Sales-with-Cryptocurrency-Artist-Laurianna-e945ma > > > "a soft opening of works commissioned by left.gallery" - > > > https://www.fullnode.berlin/events/formenverwandler-left-gallery-at-full-node/ > > > "On machine learning, creativity, and the law" - > > > https://whyisthisinteresting.substack.com/p/why-is-this-interesting-the-ai-copyright > > > "Understanding Digital Art & Blockchain - the basics for digital artists" - > > > https://codexprotocol.com/2019/11/27/understanding-digital-art-blockchain%E2%80%8A-%E2%80%8Athe-basics-for-digital-artists/ > > > Blender3D has a much easier UI now and this is a good tutorial - > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBqYTgaFDxU > > > GNU Emacs for all - > > > https://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/emacsconf/2019/emacsconf-2019-04-gnu-emacs-for-all--slides--psachin.pdf > > > "Hard Problems in Cryptocurrency: Five Years Later" - > > https://vitalik.ca/general/2019/11/22/progress.html > > > The Perfect Mario - > > https://twitter.com/JennyENicholson/status/1198000240319590400 > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org > https://lists.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- *=====================================================* *directory http://www.alansondheim.org <http://www.alansondheim.org> tel 718-813-3285**email sondheim ut panix.com <http://panix.com>, sondheim ut gmail.com <http://gmail.com>* *=====================================================*
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