It's definitely a discussion we need to have. It reminds me of a dinner I had years ago w/ Cage who confirmed he criticized jazz because the player worked with fixed rhythms. Something gets lost in these discussions; Adorno fails miserably. Ah well... It relates to my writing about 'somatic ghosting' I think. And I always feel I have to justify myself (although the audience doesn't feel it) when I show up playing an acoustic guitar for example. -- Alan
On Thu, Nov 28, 2019 at 1:06 PM Rob Myers <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2019-11-27 7:40 p.m., Alan Sondheim wrote: > >> This sounds so white/privileged to me, the position > > of the listener paramount for example, the relegation of community to > > reproduction, etc. It's a form of hip effacement. I realize I haven't > > read everything HH's has written, but there's a fundamental difference > > between a drum machine and a "great drummer" who came from community, > > breathes within community, and contributes to community. Thinking for > > example of free jazz, and the difficulties and explorations of the great > > players, the relation of that music to the cry, the field holler, the > > blues, gospel musics, etc. > > I think HH would agree with you. > > > and I keep returning to white white white white white and privilege. > There is something class-bound about Grimes (currently dating a > billionaire) and HH (whose last album was their PhD thesis) arguing > about who the future will be worse for. But I suspect that our own > reactions can be similarly reduced to our respective identities. > > There's obviously a bigger historical discussion about race, technology, > intellectual property and music that AI and "AI" are just the latest > phase of. Drum machines being prominent in rap and techno and disdain > for them as tools may be related, for example. Given this, I'm genuinely > surprised that AI has been instantly mainstreamed in music in the way > that it seems to have. More like the Fairlight than the 808... > > - Rob. > -- *=====================================================* *directory http://www.alansondheim.org <http://www.alansondheim.org> tel 718-813-3285**email sondheim ut panix.com <http://panix.com>, sondheim ut gmail.com <http://gmail.com>* *=====================================================*
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