Possibly the work of Antoinette Lafarge and the Plaintext Players (early theatrical group working in MOOs) would interest you: http://yin.arts.uci.edu/~players/index.html and http://www.forger.com/.
-- Paul On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 3:59 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Do you have any examples or references for using Moos for text processing? > That sounds really interesting. > > Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Dibbell was writing about a MOO, Lambda MOO, somewhat different. I was a >> wizard on a couple and ran one out of the New School and we had running >> for the Cybermind conference. Right now I usually have one running in >> linux for language processing; they're lightweight and can be used for >> amazing textual manipulation/creation. >> >> - ALan >> >> >> On Fri, 9 Sep 2011, Ana Vald?s wrote: >> >> > Does someone remember the MUDS? I was in one of them, invited by Howard >> > Rheingold, one of the real old timers, founder of the Wall and of a lot of >> > interesting communities, as Electric Minds. >> > People interacted at the MUDS in a similar way they do in Facebook or >> > Second >> > Life. >> > I like Julian Dibbells book about the life inside a MUD :) >> > Ana >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Paul Hertz >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > As someone who was on the Cycling74 list for the whole sweep of >> > NN's intervention, what strikes me was how variable the messages >> > were. If (her) intervention had been purely an effort to spam, >> > NN would have been booted immediately. But NN was inventive, >> > frequently a very useful contributor, and even the spammy bits >> > were charged with a degree of humor: pickled theory generated by >> > a textbot. >> > >> > Of course it got hard to take, and the gradually escalating >> > feuding poisoned the list, in the end displacing all the mostly >> > welcome or merely irritating posts. >> > >> > -- Paul >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Simon Biggs <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > Who was voting? There was a period, back when NN was >> > active, when the Net was smaller and less commercialised. >> > In that context a certain sample of users would have known >> > NN and voted for her. Nowadays the net is a different >> > universe, dominated by big business and government policy. >> > It is only going to be more like that. It is the >> > infrastructure of the knowledge economy - and government >> > and business have a particular understanding of what the >> > term economy means: making money and creating >> > jobs/consumers. As I often work at the juncture of >> > academic research (into the internet), government policy >> > and commercial development it is clear to me that the >> > net's future is nothing like its past - and the future is >> > now. >> > >> > My students have little or no knowledge of the early net. >> > They know it through >> Facebook, Twitter, blogs, BBC, apps >> > and other commercial and/or custom portals. They haven't >> > the faintest what The Well is, much less Nettime, Thing or >> > 7-11. In the case of 7-11 you cannot teach them about it >> > as the archives and other traces have been so effectively >> > removed. Only individual artist's documentation exists - >> > but that isn't the same. 7-11 was a creative >> > community/happening and it would be great to present it as >> > it was then, in its entirety. I only have my own archive >> > (probably 25% of the material) to show them. >> > >> > Many of our researchers also have little knowledge of >> > these early examples of net culture. Some do (the artists, >> > media nuts, anthropologists, etc) but those working >> > between academe and industry (which is most) simply aren't >> > >> interested. They see the net as the saviour of TV and >> > publishing. They recognise it is fundamentally different - >> > but their response is not to consider cultural >> > alternatives but to work out new business models (eg: >> > social media means social gaming linked to a network TV >> > series). I'm sorry it is like that, but it's how it is. At >> > this point we probably need an under-net, and it is >> > possible that list serves (like usenet, almost a subject >> > for media archeology) are that. >> > >> > Ana is right that list serves are dying. The number of >> > people on the net has exploded but the numbers using list >> > serves have shrunk. Many artistic communities that once >> > communicated via list serves have moved to blog, nings or >> > Facebook groups. Google+ Circles, despite the failure of >> > Google >> Wave, are the next development. Alan, you make good >> > use of that... >> > >> > best >> > >> > Simon >> > >> > >> > On 9 Sep 2011, at 17:48, Alan Sondheim wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > She was actually voted one of the 25 most important women on >> > the Net. I >> > > had some dealing with her. And everyone I knew, knew her - she >> > might have >> > > been better known in the US; NATO55 was in a lot of places. >> > > >> > > On Fri, 9 Sep 2011, Simon Biggs wrote: >> > > >> > >> Seems to overstate both the worth of turn of the Century >> > network culture (we are talking about a few hundred people here >> > on a list serve or two) and NN. More like a sub-cultural >> > splinter group... Of all the people on the internet I doubt more >> > than 0.01% have ever heard of NN. Hardly infamous. >> > >> >> > >> (but as NN is eternally prescient I am sure I will now be >> > burned to a crisp ;) >> > >> >> > >> best >> > >> >> > >> Simon >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On 9 Sep 2011, at 14:25, marc garrett wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Netochka Nezvanova. >> > >>> >> > >>> One of the most famous and infamous EccentricCharacters in >> > >>> turn?of?the?21st Century Western artistic NetworkCulture, >> > Netochka >> > >>> Nezvanova (aka N.N., antiorp, integer, Irena Sabine Czubera) >> > remains an >> > >>> enigma to many. Widely believed to be an >> > IdentityCollective?, Netochka >> > >>> Nezvanova is a PenName named after the title character in >> > [an early >> > >>> unfinished Fyodor Dostoevsky novel] whose name means >> > "nameless nobody" >> > >>> >> in Russian. The identity always presents itself as female, >> > though it may >> > >>> not be in reality. 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