by the way, written för a Lybian poet, friend of a friend, some hours ago:
" Tripoli on fire. I have fled my house after attacks by rockets. It was looted & occupied by militias. Things are going for more chaos." Now when Gaza is relative calm Tripoli burns... Ana On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I want to thank everyone as well, working in these areas isn't, for me, > like doing art in a way, but trying to disentangle anguish. I have no idea > how to go anywhere with this, politically; I feel hopeless, and the U.S. is > a convoluted mess of ideologies - not even competing, but isolated from > each other. Argh! (not the right expletive, but I'm not sure what would > be!) > > Thank you again, Alan > > > On Wed, 27 Aug 2014, dave miller wrote: > > Well done Alan for tackling these subjects. I agree artists should not be >> silent (and that includes me, but am struggling to get my creative act >> together at present). But you are an inspiration to me - please keep up >> the >> great work! >> Ana - I had contact with Opus Dei many years ago. I was a student at >> manchester University and desperately needed somewhere to live. All the >> student flats and halls had been filled by the time I started looking and >> the only accommodation the Uni had available was a hall of residence run >> by >> the Opus Dei. As a naive 19 year old I was interviewed by a very stern >> spanish man in a brown cloak, dressed like a monk, who said I could live >> there but I would have to go to mass at 6am every morning. I was brought >> up >> as a catholic so it wasn't too alien to me, and I was unsure at that stage >> of my life if I believed or not, but I turned them down as i remember >> having >> very strange feelings about the whole setup, plus the mass idea was a >> nightmare. Also I knew I couldn't survive in a place like that, it felt >> like >> a monastery. But there were people there I recognised from my course, and >> I >> remember their reaction to me was strange like I'd seen them as they >> really >> were. >> I've heard a lot of horror stories about Opus Dei since and can't believe >> I >> stupidly found myself in that situation. >> >> Your account about being tortured is fascinating - heart breaking - >> terrifying and very thought provoking. Thanks for sharing something so >> personal. >> >> cheers dave >> >> >> >> >> On 27 August 2014 18:57, Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I will read it and I know all of this and I was also shot at in >> Israel years ago and I am horrified by Israel. I do think ISIS >> is the result of something else but it is the logic of the war >> machine, the Israeli war machine ours, the streets of Ferguson - >> which could be anywhere in the U.S. What I'm arguing is that >> this something else cannot be explained, that poetics are >> necessary - and why are artists so silent on this? >> This is NOT US against THEM - this is US against ourselves. >> >> I also feel, having been a somewhat minor member of the left all >> thru the 60s in the US etc. etc. that we too easily blame >> ourselves for EVERYTHING - we are part of the problem, but so is >> ISIS. The "also" is important below - they are more than these >> children. I've known a lot of children of concentration camp >> parents and their reactions are wildly varied (including in >> several cases moving to Germany); none of this is simple cause >> and affect. >> >> I was also btw in Israel when Nassir was calling for the Jews to >> be drowned in the sea, when my friends were being shot at, when >> I had a knife pulled on me in my own dorm room, when an Arab who >> was my friend was beaten to an inch of his life and dropped in a >> gully (beaten by other Arabs). Violence breeds violence. I'm not >> trying to analyze the politics of ISIS - I read about them but >> I'm not capable of political science - but I am trying to deal >> with the poetics/poesis of what's inside each of us. >> >> Alan >> >> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014, Ana Vald?s wrote: >> >> Alan, read it, please, ISIS is also the children of the >> terrible war againt Irak, a war based on false information >> and cheap oil. ISIS is the children of the drones hitting >> villagers weddings in Pakistan. No, we don't see the >> drones but the victims see us, all, Westerner, as the ones >> sending the drones. >> >> www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/25/how-brutalized-become-brutal >> >> I was in Gaza some years ago, the same week Rachel Corrie >> was killed, >> crushed by a bulldozzer send to crush the houses at the >> border. >> Many small kids ran to the morgue to see her dead body, I >> wonder how many of >> them are in the ranks of Hamas today. >> >> I was myselt tortured for many years ago, I was tortured >> by fellow landsmen >> who believed they needed punish me for not sharing their >> ideas about many >> things >> >> http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/03/28/torture-works/ >> >> I marched with the women survivors of Srebrenica in the >> ex-Yugoslavia some >> years ago as well, they want still justice for their dead >> relatives >> >> We live in a time where Ferguson, Gaza, Montevideo, >> Srebrenica, carry >> painful memories to share. >> >> Ana >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Alan Sondheim >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> ISIS NEWFLAG >> >> http://www.alansondheim.org/isisflag.png >> http://www.alansondheim.org/isisflag.mp4 >> >> A new flag for ISIS. A cross turned, kindly bent to >> let >> the bodies down, perhaps an arm remains, propping >> the >> rest of the weight. the wounded. Perhaps an X, sign >> of >> belonging, gratitude to the beautiful clean world. >> There >> are no animals here. Perhaps an X which itself moves >> in >> violence, the focus of someone else's dream: it was >> the >> land and its god which did the dreaming. Perhaps an >> occlusion of solar light, a moment's cooling. But a >> new >> flag, new allure, new days and new bodies. >> >> The allure of the X as well, a new flat for the >> taking, >> copyright patent NEWFLAG, new bodies, worlds to >> conquer. >> New: forms of torture, ransom, violence, pillage. >> New: nations, cleansings, war machines, prisons. >> New: religions new-day dawning, new controls. >> New: cleansed women, children. New: thanks be to >> God. >> Thanks be to God. HE almighty. Thanks be to God. >> >> Perhaps an X, carved, above or through the eyes. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.twitter.com/caravia15860606060 >> http://www.scoop.it/t/art-and-activism/ >> http://www.scoop.it/t/food-history-and-trivia >> http://www.scoop.it/t/urbanism-3-0 >> >> >> >> cell Sweden +4670-3213370 >> cell Uruguay +598-99470758 >> >> >> "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk >> the earth with your >> eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you >> will always long >> to return. >> ? 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