I'd love to see work, here, or a show, or something, a conversation, around these things. At one point a few weeks ago, I saw an American newscaster preparing for the news, he was holding back tears, looking shell-shocked -


On Wed, 27 Aug 2014, Ana Vald?s wrote:

by the way, written f?r a Lybian poet, friend of a friend, some hours ago:

"

Tripoli on fire. I have fled my house after attacks by rockets. It was
looted & occupied by militias. Things are going for more chaos."


Now when Gaza is relative calm Tripoli burns...

Ana



On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> wrote:


      I want to thank everyone as well, working in these areas isn't,
      for me, like doing art in a way, but trying to disentangle
      anguish. I have no idea how to go anywhere with this,
      politically; I feel hopeless, and the U.S. is a convoluted mess
      of ideologies - not even competing, but isolated from
      each other. Argh! (not the right expletive, but I'm not sure
      what would be!)

      Thank you again, Alan

      On Wed, 27 Aug 2014, dave miller wrote:

            Well done Alan for tackling these subjects. I agree
            artists should not be
            silent (and that includes me, but am struggling to
            get my creative act
            together at present). But you are an inspiration to
            me - please keep up the
            great work!
            Ana - I had contact with Opus Dei many years ago. I
            was a student at
            manchester University and desperately needed
            somewhere to live. All the
            student flats and halls had been filled by the time
            I started looking and
            the only accommodation the Uni had available was a
            hall of residence run by
            the Opus Dei. As a naive 19 year old I was
            interviewed by a very stern
            spanish man in a brown cloak, dressed like a monk,
            who said I could live
            there but I would have to go to mass at 6am every
            morning. I was brought up
            as a catholic so it wasn't too alien to me, and I
            was unsure at that stage
            of my life if I believed or not, but I turned them
            down as i remember having
            very strange feelings about the whole setup, plus
            the mass idea was a
            nightmare. Also I knew I couldn't survive in a place
            like that, it felt like
            a monastery. But there were people there I
            recognised from my course, and I
            remember their reaction to me was strange like I'd
            seen them as they really
            were.
            I've heard a lot of horror stories about Opus Dei
            since and can't believe I
            stupidly found myself in that situation.

            Your account about being tortured is fascinating -
            heart breaking -
            terrifying and very thought provoking. Thanks for
            sharing something so
            personal.

            cheers dave




            On 27 August 2014 18:57, Alan Sondheim
            <[email protected]> wrote:

                  I will read it and I know all of this and I
            was also shot at in
                  Israel years ago and I am horrified by Israel.
            I do think ISIS
                  is the result of something else but it is the
            logic of the war
                  machine, the Israeli war machine ours, the
            streets of Ferguson -
                  which could be anywhere in the U.S. What I'm
            arguing is that
                  this something else cannot be explained, that
            poetics are
                  necessary - and why are artists so silent on
            this?
                  This is NOT US against THEM - this is US
            against ourselves.

                  I also feel, having been a somewhat minor
            member of the left all
                  thru the 60s in the US etc. etc. that we too
            easily blame
                  ourselves for EVERYTHING - we are part of the
            problem, but so is
                  ISIS. The "also" is important below - they are
            more than these
                  children. I've known a lot of children of
            concentration camp
                  parents and their reactions are wildly varied
            (including in
                  several cases moving to Germany); none of this
            is simple cause
                  and affect.

                  I was also btw in Israel when Nassir was
            calling for the Jews to
                  be drowned in the sea, when my friends were
            being shot at, when
                  I had a knife pulled on me in my own dorm
            room, when an Arab who
                  was my friend was beaten to an inch of his
            life and dropped in a
                  gully (beaten by other Arabs). Violence breeds
            violence. I'm not
                  trying to analyze the politics of ISIS - I
            read about them but
                  I'm not capable of political science - but I
            am trying to deal
                  with the poetics/poesis of what's inside each
            of us.

                  Alan

                  On Wed, 27 Aug 2014, Ana Vald?s wrote:

                  Alan, read it, please, ISIS is also the
            children of the
                  terrible war againt Irak, a war based on false
            information
                  and cheap oil. ISIS is the children of the
            drones hitting
                  villagers weddings in Pakistan. No, we don't
            see the
                  drones but the victims see us, all, Westerner,
            as the ones
                  sending the drones.

                 
            www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/25/how-brutalized-become-brutal

                  I was in Gaza some years ago, the same week
            Rachel Corrie
                  was killed,
                  crushed by a bulldozzer send to crush the
            houses at the
                  border.
                  Many small kids ran to the morgue to see her
            dead body, I
                  wonder how many of
                  them are in the ranks of Hamas today.

                  I was myselt tortured for many years ago, I
            was tortured
                  by fellow landsmen
                  who believed they needed punish me for not
            sharing their
                  ideas about many
                  things

                 
            http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/03/28/torture-works/

                  I marched with the women survivors of
            Srebrenica in the
                  ex-Yugoslavia some
                  years ago as well, they want still justice for
            their dead
                  relatives

                  We live in a time where Ferguson, Gaza,
            Montevideo,
                  Srebrenica, carry
                  painful memories to share.

                  Ana


                  On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Alan Sondheim
                  <[email protected]> wrote:


                        ISIS NEWFLAG

                        http://www.alansondheim.org/isisflag.png
                        http://www.alansondheim.org/isisflag.mp4

                        A new flag for ISIS. A cross turned,
            kindly bent to
                  let
                        the bodies down, perhaps an arm remains,
            propping
                  the
                        rest of the weight. the wounded. Perhaps
            an X, sign
                  of
                        belonging, gratitude to the beautiful
            clean world.
                  There
                        are no animals here. Perhaps an X which
            itself moves
                  in
                        violence, the focus of someone else's
            dream: it was
                  the
                        land and its god which did the dreaming.
            Perhaps an
                        occlusion of solar light, a moment's
            cooling. But a
                  new
                        flag, new allure, new days and new
            bodies.

                        The allure of the X as well, a new flat
            for the
                  taking,
                        copyright patent NEWFLAG, new bodies,
            worlds to
                  conquer.
                        New: forms of torture, ransom, violence,
            pillage.
                        New: nations, cleansings, war machines,
            prisons.
                        New: religions new-day dawning, new
            controls.
                        New: cleansed women, children. New:
            thanks be to
                  God.
                        Thanks be to God. HE almighty. Thanks be
            to God.

                        Perhaps an X, carved, above or through
            the eyes.

                       
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