But my point is exactly the same as you, the wars and the violence
against
civilians IS the same, 70000 ppl were killed in Jerusalem in two days
by the
Christian army 1099.. They were not only Muslims, they were Jews and
Christians are well, Copts and Maronites. Saladin, who recovered the
city
for the Arabs 300 years later, was more merciful and all Christians and
their churches were kept intact. Later on we had genocides and
massacres to
all indigenous ppl in America, both North and South. Spain burned alive
Jews, Arabs and Protestants, the Inquisition was ruthless.
And all those tens of millions Black Africans shipped as slaves to
the US
and Europe, sold as animals, killed as vermin.
And Turkey wiping out the Armenian, genocide as well.
And after the Holocaust where not only Jews but gypsies homosexuals and
mental ill come other Holocausts, 30000 in Argentina and Uruguay,
1000000 in
Guatemala and Salvador, later the Rwanda holocaust and the Bosnian
holocaust...and so many holocausts we see and how many more we will see.
Between my work 2005 and yours 2011 its not any difference, we see the
harvest now of the grapes of wrath which were planted then.
Ana
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Alan Sondheim <[email protected]>
wrote:
This is extremely interesting; I should also mention the work I
did with Sandy Baldwin on pain and death for Eyebeam, which is
still up, I think, at the blog
http://eyebeam.org/blogs/alansondheim/ - Eyebeam's moved and the
site is a mess, but there's still information. This was a few
years ago.
My work now isn't about the image or representation, but is
trying to go somewhere else; otherwise I repeat myself, or
repeat politics, repeat repeat repeat myself, as if this is a
form of healing or cauterization. So I'm working for better or
worse, quite possibly the later which seems my forte, with
poesis/poetics and that's what's going on in the current pieces.
I've written something short on this which I'll put up.
Beyond this, my work was around 2011, yours 2005 I think? And
now we are in a different space, wars and violence against
civilizians EVERYWHERE, and what is our response?
And those not participating in the discussion, why not? I keep
reading my email, Fb, etc. and there's a huge divide - Wired-mag
style technology news saving the world - and the very real
savagry destroying large portions of it.
Thank you for the discussion and references,
Alan
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014, Ana Vald?s wrote:
For many years ago I participated in a show with
many writers, acitvists and
artists, the topic was Images of War in Contemporary
world,
http://jordancrandall.com/main/+UNDERFIRE/underfire.html
Two small books collected our discussions, Under
Fire one and two,
http://www.amazon.com/Jordan-Crandall-Under-Fire-Part/dp/907336261X
It was the French curator Catherine David, the first
appointed female
curator at Documenta., who was the chef for Witte de
Witt Art Centre in
Rotterdam, Holland, who was behind the show and many
others dealing with the
images of the Arabs in the Contemporary World.
She was one of the first Western curators in the
world of visual arts trying
to understand how the image of the Arabs was
coloured with many prejudges
and ignorance.
Her work with these issues can still be viewed here,
http://www.fundaciotapies.org/site/spip.php?article4543
The last station of her ongoing touring exhibitions
was about Iraq and she
invited to Berlin, to Barcelona and to Sweden some
of the most interesting
artists and writers from the Iraqui diaspora,
http://www.fundaciotapies.org/site/spip.php?article4543
I curated the Swedish part, connecting it with my
own project, Crusading,
http://ceciliaparsberg.se/crusading/about.htm
Ana