It does seem curious how: * when arab spring has sprang, fb was happy to claim and collect praises and acolytes. * when authoritarianism/alt-right popped their recent champaign bubbles out of plebs' sweat, tears and fears - fb is just a neutral tech, never ever been to any events remotely like "tech is not neutral" - nor have we, fb, ever heard of, nor from, ted nelson and such. * when the above assertion of neutrality became controversial somehow with "liberal minded" acolytes, it became profitable to keep the bubble algorithms (that entertain and feed ad money), and go for xenophobia - errr censorship - which is exactly the stuff "liberal minded" people happened to demand.
Indeed, perhaps "fb - we abuse people, intelligence, algorithms, anything, you tag it" might well do for an honest logo/tag-line? Oh.. but is it not "post-truth" golden handshake? err, time..? Cheers and hope you survived the rant intact... aharon xx (going to disturb the good people of newhaven with questions from art shortly..) November 30 2016 10:03 AM, "AGF poemproducer" wrote: it is also one of the 2 biggest super-imperialists using our digital labour, fake news distributer +++ privacy abuser etc On 30 Nov 2016, at 11:47, Charlotte Elizabeth Webb wrote: Last night I was watching Astra Taylor give a keynote for the 2016 Rhizome Seven on Seven event (https://vimeo.com/169714504), and she made a good point that 'purity' re: Facebook (i.e. not being there on principle) is counter-effective when it comes to political organising, because it is simply where the people are.X Charlotte ------------------------------------ From: netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org (mailto:netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org) on behalf of AGF poemproducer Sent: 30 November 2016 09:23 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] FW: NetBehaviour Digest, Vol 2912, Issue 1 Alan, leave facebook and keep posting agee On 30 Nov 2016, at 11:11, x wrote: Utterly agree here with Michael, Ruth, and I suspect many others, and others I've missed. Will def miss Alan's stuff if it were on FB as FB isn't going to be on my network anytime soon. + Alan, if most posts went to FB, would it not be an illustration of how the "feed-bubble" is wrapping goo over mindful attention spans? Alan --> Please Don't Go! Perhaps my time recall requires an apology, was it not only a few months back when we've discussed how NB could be at times so many people use the fb. I think neterarti came as a response to that conversation? Surely, when a person - or just me (?) - signs up to a mailinglist, it's with Otherness within a certain range that you go for? Other rather than a bubble? And by extension, a bit of Adorno's notion of "art" as un-able to be entertaining, "art" as a radical that constantly links away from cultural comforting beats? Cheers! aharon xxx November 30 2016 8:51 AM, "ruth catlow" wrote: Agreed! Same! Alan, You are the highly valued artistic "ping" of Netbehaviour. It's been a while - but there have been times when many more of us posted work regularly. I for one would love to what Netbehaviour people are up to on a more daily basis. If it wasn't for Annie's post last week, I would not have got to experience the networked "feeling" experiment hosted by The Nunnery Gallery last week- which changed the way I listen to machines. Please people, don't hold back. Ruth On 30/11/16 08:18, Michael Szpakowski wrote: Please don't cut down Alan. People are grown ups and can exercise some choice as to what they view.I don't look at everything you post by any means but I'm glad it's there.michael ------------------------------------ From: Alan Sondheim (mailto:sondh...@panix.com) To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity (mailto:netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org) Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] FW: NetBehaviour Digest, Vol 2912, Issue 1 I'm cutting back on my posts on Nb; I don't want to be either a nuisance or feel responsible for unsubbing. 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