Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 07:29:25 -800
From: "Ronald C. Dailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: will someone remind me why....

On 2000-11-07 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
   >Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 11:36:41
   >AFAIK, sz - and thus DSZ - came out ot the *nix network realm; and
   >there sure is the Linux "sz" - so that (or its DOS port) should run
   >on an appropriate packet driver socket in DOS too, shouldn't it ?
   >//  Heimo Claasen  // < hammer at inti dot be > // Brussels
   >2000-11-07 The WebPlace of ReRead - and much to read ==> http://www.
   >inti.be/hammer

The problem with DSZ seems to be mostly with telnet, and not necessarily 
with PPP.  Since zmodem works with Windows telnet clients, even that can 
be overcome, it would appear.

Here's an excerpt from the DSZ Background Doc relative to telnet and 
zmodem:

      Terminals on some timesharing systems are connected indirectly to the
      host with TERMINAL SERVERS operating over networks.  Terminal servers
      often interfere with file transfers by "eating" control characters
      and/or losing data.

      Accessing a distant system using telnet on a local Unix system entails
      the same problems.  If telnet does not work well, try rlogin with the
      -8 option.  Set the escape character to ^P (control P) which is
      protected by ZMODEM.

      When terminal servers interfere with file transfers, server commands
      are often available to help the problem.  When possible, enable the
      server and modems for hardware flow control in and out.  Set the
      terminal server to telnet transparent mode.  Some typical commands are
      "SET TERMINAL DOWNLOAD", "set session passall", and "SET TERMINAL NO
      ESC", but there is no standard set of commands suitable for all
      terminal servers.  Normally these commands are given before attempting
      file transfers, but one user has reported that the command must be
      given after the file transfer is started(!).  Until terminal server
      vendors improve the quality of their product, you may have to get on
      their case until they adequately support high performance file
      transfers.

      The telnet protcol used by the telnet program and terminal servers
      uses 0xFF (377 octal) for special control functions.  The 0xFF
      character may cause problems if it appears in the data stream,
      especially uploading at high speeds.  With ZCOMM or Professional-YAM
      the 0xFF character can be protected by giving the command:
      set zmtxesc ?

      Escaping control characters with ZMODEM (sz -e) may help if the
      transfer gets stuck in the same place on every attempt.
      Professional-YAM and ZCOMM allow selection of which control characters
      need to be escaped.  In extreme cases 7-bit transmission may be
      required (see the Professional-YAM/ZCOMM manual).  If you encounter
      problems with control characters you should identify which control
      characters are causing the problem.  Please refer to the sz -T command
      in sz.doc for more help.


The catch is that several references are made to Professional-YAM and 
ZCOMM rather than DSZ itself.  DSZ may not have all the options 
necessary to allow it to work well with telnet and not everyone will 
have access to rlogin, especially those using Net-Tamer since Net-Tamer 
doesn't offer rlogin as an option.  I used to use rlogin when I accessed 
a remote BBS to upload and download SOUP mail packets.  With that BBS, 
zmodem would work for downloads via telnet, but not for uploads.  Using 
rlogin, I could do both.  However, I didn't use the -8 option, just 
plain "rlogin <URL>" and went there.  I then used the options on the BBS 
to download and upload using zmodem as the protocol.

Ronald Dailey
  

-- 
RCD

Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered



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