Which is the page of the tools ? On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Jason Dentler <[email protected]>wrote:
> Haven't we crossed this bridge already? We have a book page. No matter how > (very very very) little the hourly rate may be for authors, it's still a > commercial product. > > Having said that, if someone were to write a significant NHibernate eBook > and distribute it for free, I'd still expect to find it on the book page. > > By this same logic, I think the "significant" open source tools like FNH > should be included in any list of add-on tools. In my mind, the distinction > between open source / non-profit and for-profit is arbitrary. > > My two cents > - Jason > > On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hopefully we can have all opinions of all vendors here... >> >> Perhaps we (NH team) are worried about something that for you (vendors) is >> not a problem. >> >> In practice we can give you a space in NH-Forge, you can blog a review of >> your product and so on but what you can't do is start a commercial war and >> involve us. >> >> If you can come in a sort of agreement, we are open to hear proposal about >> how give more visibility to commercial products inside www.nhforge.org >> >> On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 9:33 AM, sbohlen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> NOTE: This is a continuation of a discussion branch that began in this >>> thread of the NHUSERS group: >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers/browse_thread/thread/166cd3b0e77c9e35/056321a3ec570d3b >>> >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> Frans: >>> >>> Uh....I'm honestly a bit confused by your response as I think we're >>> going to have to declare that we seem to be "in violent agreement" on >>> (nearly) all of these points. >>> >>> From reading your comments, my concerns appear to be yours as well: I >>> too am interested in an area of NHForge that can assist adopters of NH >>> in finding commercial tools to improve their "NH experience" but in >>> such a way that the NHForge site itself (and by extension the NH team) >>> isn't directly involved in endorsing, ranking, commenting, or >>> otherwise doing anything that would make it appear as if one vendor or >>> tool was better/worse than any other vendor/tool (e.g., NH is able to >>> maintain its neutrality). >>> >>> My list of 'principles' that I tried to enumerate in my post seemed >>> (to me, at least) a reasonable set of guidelines to enable us to >>> achieve exactly those goals (providing visibility for such offerings >>> while maintaining neutrality). I think remaining neutral is 'good >>> practice' in re: NH's relation with commercial tools/projects, but >>> frankly I think its equally good practice in re: NH's relation with >>> open-source and/or free tools/projects as well (e.g., I think it >>> equally inappropriate for NH to be 'recommending' one OSS tool over >>> another -- just as with commercial offerings). >>> >>> My suggestion was to find a way to list such products/vendors without >>> appearing to 'endorse' or 'rank' them in any manner. >>> >>> I don't think I said (and I certainly didn't mean to inadvertently >>> imply) that there is no place in the NH ecosystem for commercial >>> offerings -- quite the reverse, in fact. I was merely trying to >>> suggest that whatever manner is decided upon to attempt to increase >>> 'visibility' of such things on the NHForge site be accomplished in >>> such a way that NH's neutrality towards any of these offerings remain >>> intact. >>> >>> I certainly recognize that one level of such imperfect neutrality will >>> be instantly sacrificed merely by listing a product/vendor on the >>> NHForge site, but that's why I indicated that it needed to be very >>> clear to any vendor HOW to get their product listed should they want >>> to do so (e.g., so that it wasn't made to appear that the listed >>> vendors/products were in any way part of an "elite club" that over >>> vendors were unable to 'join'). >>> >>> I hope this serves to clarify the intent of my comments (even if it >>> appears I wasn't entirely clear in my prior content). >>> >>> -Steve B. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Fabio Maulo >> >> > -- Fabio Maulo
