Pulled the starter, it looks like a gear box in side.  Covered in
black grease and crude. The must be a bad or missing o ring near the
spline gear.   Its ammazing it ever worked with all the oil and crude
on/in it. Armature looks ok will check continuity once I get the crude
off it. I located a rebuild kit on line (http://www.motorcityreman.com/
4brrekit.html) for $30 will give it a try.

Thanks for the guidence... Hope to be riding again by mid week.

Glen




On Jun 14, 12:27 am, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
> Many members have rebuilt their own. Why not you ? Take it out and find out 
> how bad it is before any drastic measures. Very few tools required. Parts 
> available on-line.
>
> --- On Sat, 6/13/09, Snookfever <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Snookfever <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter Trouble 84 700S
> To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]>
> Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 11:52 PM
>
> Dennis:
>
> I got a "C" in electrical.  But I finally got it.   I have 12V at
> battery, and 12v at Starter terminal with the button pushed.  No
> starter..    So it sounds like I need a starter.  Can I rebuild this
> my self? Or take it to a shop. Or buy replacement.
>
> Glen
>
> On Jun 12, 11:31 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > My first instruction was as clear as it can be. When pushing the button do 
> > you have 12 volts at the starter terminal ? (not the relay / solenoid) 
> > Drops to nothing ?
> > Take a deep breath. Now check the voltage across the battery terminals. 
> > What is the voltage across the battery with the button pushed ? drops to 
> > zero ?
> > OK, the headlight going out is supposed to happen. A drop across the 
> > battery to zero is a poor battery, a huge drop at the starter terminal is a 
> > bad starter. No voltage at the starter terminal is a bad solenoid.
> > The starter terminal is where the cable attaches to the starter motor.
> > Want more ? Try jumping the starter motor. Use cables from a battery to a 
> > chassis ground and starter motor terminal. Motor works ? Y~N ?
> > Additional:
> > #1 lets say you have 12 volts at the battery, no voltage at the starter 
> > terminal..         replace relay / solenoid.
> > #2 12 volts at the battery, but only 3 volts at the starter terminal. 
> > Battery or starter ?
> >      Hold down the button and check the battery Still have 12 ? dropped to 
> > 3 ?
> >      jump the starter OK ? Y~N ? Yes, bad battery, No, rebuild starter.
>
> > --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Snookfever <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > From: Snookfever <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter Trouble 84 700S
> > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 6:29 PM
>
> > Dennis:
>
> > Checking the starter relay switch posts (battery positive on one side
> > to starter on the other) I have 12.5 volts.  When you push the start
> > button with th key on the head light goes out and the volt reading is
> > zero.  Selenoid? By selenoid do you mean the starter relay switch?
>
> > Glen..
>
> > On Jun 12, 1:23 am, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hold the button in and check for 12 volts at the starter terminal. Have 
> > > it ? then rebuild the starter. No 12V ? Solenoid is bad. 
>
> > > --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Snookfever <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Starter Trouble 84 700S
> > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]>
> > > Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 11:33 PM
>
> > > Dennis:
>
> > > Just checked and the battery was up to full charge 13.45 volts, but it
> > > wont turn over. It just clicks...
>
> > > What now???
>
> > > Glen
>
> > > On Jun 11, 11:11 pm, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > sounds like another charging system problem
>
> > > > On Jun 11, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Snookfever wrote:
>
> > > > > My bike starts right up the morning, but after riding half an hour the
> > > > > motor will barely turn over. The battery is 6 months old and fuild
> > > > > level is fine. I put a motorcycle battery tender on it after riding
> > > > > and if I have not rode in a week or so I will plug it in over night.
> > > > > Tonight I rode 40 miles to bike night hung out about an hour with
> > > > > friends and it barley started after several tries.  I rode back 40
> > > > > miles, when I stopped to fuel up it would not turn over. The starter
> > > > > switch clicks when you hit the button and the head light is bright.
> > > > > Any idea what is going on?
>
> > > > > Thanks...
>
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