The thing that Kyle left out is that his left leg looks like that of a
professional Wrestler and that his co-workers often comment about that
cologne he's wearing - only to find out its eau du clutch :-)
-Joey
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
> Joey's right, my commute is absolutely hellish. 26 miles of bumper to bumper
> interstate travel that can take me anywhere from 45mins on a good day, to
> 1.5hours on bad days. I still prefer a standard, for me it's the extra level
> of control you get from a clutch. I couldn't imagine an automatic bike, I've
> ridden automatic scooters, but those things are usually underpowered, top
> out at 35mph, and the feeling is so slushy that you don't even notice it
> shifting. On a bike I want to be in the gear I want to be in. Even with my
> abysmal commute I still drive a standard because I want to be in control.
> Everytime I rent a car it's an automatic, and they drive me insane. Barely
> press the gas while cruising and it downshifts and guns the RPMs and makes
> an ass of itself. So then I put it in the "manual mode" to keep it from
> hunting through the gears. You forget it's there, come to a stop, it
> downshifts to 1st without telling you, but then holds the gear until you
> frantically slap it up a gear or back into auto. What a PiTA. I'll stick
> with my manual and clutch, on both 4 and 2 wheels thank you very much.
>
> I agree with Javier and Kurt that CVTs make more sense in some applications,
> like a bus or even a scooter, and I can appreciate the engineering that goes
> into one, but just don't have room for one in my world.
>
> -Kyle
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with you Joey. Back in Venezuela I had a 78 bug and my commute
>> included a 11 km uphill on the mountains that sometimes could be
>> bumper-to-bumper. I was miserable with the damn clutch on that car. Yet I
>> always said I would never drive automatic. Now that I my passion is on
>> motorcycles, car is just a mere transportation mechanism so I don't really
>> care much about the transmission. However, my mind can not comprehend how
>> somebody can buy a muscle sports car with automatic transmission. That
>> really makes no sense.
>>
>> Javier.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think with the drive towards performance, efficiency, we
>>> occasionally lose the feeling of the driver actually doing something -
>>> using something besides brakes to slow for instance - that are so much
>>> a part of a traditional driving experience.
>>> The first thing I thought when I got in my GF's car - wow
>>> - I miss having a stick shift.
>>> When I got into heavy traffic - my next thought was,
>>> where is my automatic - I'm going to fry this clutch.
>>> I think that I as well as many people here prefer the
>>> experience of shifting, paying attention to the vehicle - but for
>>> certain circumstances, like Kyle's Houston morning commute, a manual
>>> will wear out your left foot or left hand quite quickly.
>>> Just a couple thoughts.
>>> -Joey
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Kurt Nolte <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > The other reason for automatics (dct/cvt and the like) is actually
>>> > performance. You cannot buy a manual transmission supercar anymore.
>>> > Rarely
>>> > are racing cars manual. DCT automatics shift faster, and CVTs allow you
>>> > to
>>> > literally STAY at torque or power peak while you accelerate.
>>> >
>>> > Doesn't mean I want either one. I'd love a strong CVT tow rig or
>>> > hypermiling
>>> > car, but I want a bike I can still shift.
>>> >
>>> > Kurt
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Aug 22, 2012 10:49 AM, "Javier Garcia" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I have never driven a CVT car, but from what i read it makes more
>>> >> sense
>>> >> than the traditional automatic transmission. I wouldn't like to have
>>> >> neither
>>> >> on a bike.
>>> >>
>>> >> Javier.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Aug 22, 2012 8:14 AM, "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I dislike the CVT in my wife's car, there is no way I'd want one on a
>>> >>> bike. CVT==Boring
>>> >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>> >>> ________________________________
>>> >>> From: Javier Garcia <[email protected]>
>>> >>> Sender: [email protected]
>>> >>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:00:03 -0400
>>> >>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> >>> ReplyTo: [email protected]
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Did someone say Diesel Adventure
>>> >>> bikes
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I like the design of the one on the MCN report. Really good looking.
>>> >>> It
>>> >>> seems it was a mistake to go for the CVT. I still can't understand
>>> >>> why still
>>> >>> there are people trying to go to automatic transmission on bikes.
>>> >>> Honda is
>>> >>> pushing this dual clutch thing on few models, and I think Yamaha is
>>> >>> doing
>>> >>> the same.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Javier.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Unfortunately no ride report for the HDT bike but 89 MPG and can do
>>> >>>> 90
>>> >>>> MPH isn't bad despite only 33 HP and 38 FT/LBS.
>>> >>>> The MCN report was not favorable at all for the european bike.
>>> >>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>> >>>> ________________________________
>>> >>>> From: Hawaii Sean <[email protected]>
>>> >>>> Sender: [email protected]
>>> >>>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:49:38 -0700 (PDT)
>>> >>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> >>>> ReplyTo: [email protected]
>>> >>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Did someone say Diesel Adventure bikes
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Check out the links:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> http://www.adventuremotorcycle.com/issues/Sample/files/assets/downloads/page0006.pdf
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/First-rides-tests/2009/June/jun0409-diesel-motorcycle-review/
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> http://dieselmotorcycles.com/company.html
>>> >>>>
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