Oh ok, sounds just like from Long Beach to south orange county. Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: > From SE Houston to west Houston and back, every day. > > -Kyle > > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Vicmmm <[email protected]> wrote: > Where do you commute Kyle? Sounds like my drive! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:23 AM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Joey's right, my commute is absolutely hellish. 26 miles of bumper to bumper >> interstate travel that can take me anywhere from 45mins on a good day, to >> 1.5hours on bad days. I still prefer a standard, for me it's the extra level >> of control you get from a clutch. I couldn't imagine an automatic bike, I've >> ridden automatic scooters, but those things are usually underpowered, top >> out at 35mph, and the feeling is so slushy that you don't even notice it >> shifting. On a bike I want to be in the gear I want to be in. Even with my >> abysmal commute I still drive a standard because I want to be in control. >> Everytime I rent a car it's an automatic, and they drive me insane. Barely >> press the gas while cruising and it downshifts and guns the RPMs and makes >> an ass of itself. So then I put it in the "manual mode" to keep it from >> hunting through the gears. You forget it's there, come to a stop, it >> downshifts to 1st without telling you, but then holds the gear until you >> frantically slap it up a gear or back into auto. What a PiTA. I'll stick >> with my manual and clutch, on both 4 and 2 wheels thank you very much. >> >> I agree with Javier and Kurt that CVTs make more sense in some applications, >> like a bus or even a scooter, and I can appreciate the engineering that goes >> into one, but just don't have room for one in my world. >> >> -Kyle >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote: >> I agree with you Joey. Back in Venezuela I had a 78 bug and my commute >> included a 11 km uphill on the mountains that sometimes could be >> bumper-to-bumper. I was miserable with the damn clutch on that car. Yet I >> always said I would never drive automatic. Now that I my passion is on >> motorcycles, car is just a mere transportation mechanism so I don't really >> care much about the transmission. However, my mind can not comprehend how >> somebody can buy a muscle sports car with automatic transmission. That >> really makes no sense. >> >> Javier. >> >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote: >> I think with the drive towards performance, efficiency, we >> occasionally lose the feeling of the driver actually doing something - >> using something besides brakes to slow for instance - that are so much >> a part of a traditional driving experience. >> The first thing I thought when I got in my GF's car - wow >> - I miss having a stick shift. >> When I got into heavy traffic - my next thought was, >> where is my automatic - I'm going to fry this clutch. >> I think that I as well as many people here prefer the >> experience of shifting, paying attention to the vehicle - but for >> certain circumstances, like Kyle's Houston morning commute, a manual >> will wear out your left foot or left hand quite quickly. >> Just a couple thoughts. >> -Joey >> >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > The other reason for automatics (dct/cvt and the like) is actually >> > performance. You cannot buy a manual transmission supercar anymore. Rarely >> > are racing cars manual. DCT automatics shift faster, and CVTs allow you to >> > literally STAY at torque or power peak while you accelerate. >> > >> > Doesn't mean I want either one. I'd love a strong CVT tow rig or >> > hypermiling >> > car, but I want a bike I can still shift. >> > >> > Kurt >> > >> > >> > On Aug 22, 2012 10:49 AM, "Javier Garcia" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> I have never driven a CVT car, but from what i read it makes more sense >> >> than the traditional automatic transmission. I wouldn't like to have >> >> neither >> >> on a bike. >> >> >> >> Javier. >> >> >> >> On Aug 22, 2012 8:14 AM, "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I dislike the CVT in my wife's car, there is no way I'd want one on a >> >>> bike. CVT==Boring >> >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> >>> ________________________________ >> >>> From: Javier Garcia <[email protected]> >> >>> Sender: [email protected] >> >>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:00:03 -0400 >> >>> To: <[email protected]> >> >>> ReplyTo: [email protected] >> >>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Did someone say Diesel Adventure bikes >> >>> >> >>> I like the design of the one on the MCN report. Really good looking. It >> >>> seems it was a mistake to go for the CVT. I still can't understand why >> >>> still >> >>> there are people trying to go to automatic transmission on bikes. Honda >> >>> is >> >>> pushing this dual clutch thing on few models, and I think Yamaha is doing >> >>> the same. >> >>> >> >>> Javier. >> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Unfortunately no ride report for the HDT bike but 89 MPG and can do 90 >> >>>> MPH isn't bad despite only 33 HP and 38 FT/LBS. >> >>>> The MCN report was not favorable at all for the european bike. >> >>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> >>>> ________________________________ >> >>>> From: Hawaii Sean <[email protected]> >> >>>> Sender: [email protected] >> >>>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:49:38 -0700 (PDT) >> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >> >>>> ReplyTo: [email protected] >> >>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Did someone say Diesel Adventure bikes >> >>>> >> >>>> Check out the links: >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.adventuremotorcycle.com/issues/Sample/files/assets/downloads/page0006.pdf >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/First-rides-tests/2009/June/jun0409-diesel-motorcycle-review/ >> >>>> >> >>>> http://dieselmotorcycles.com/company.html >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/QKnGBzmESwkJ. >> >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>>> [email protected]. >> >>>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>>> [email protected]. >> >>>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>> [email protected]. >> >>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >>> [email protected]. >> >>> For more options, visit this group at >> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> [email protected]. >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> -Joey Kelley >> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online >> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! 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