Where do you commute Kyle? Sounds like my drive! Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:23 AM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: > Joey's right, my commute is absolutely hellish. 26 miles of bumper to bumper > interstate travel that can take me anywhere from 45mins on a good day, to > 1.5hours on bad days. I still prefer a standard, for me it's the extra level > of control you get from a clutch. I couldn't imagine an automatic bike, I've > ridden automatic scooters, but those things are usually underpowered, top out > at 35mph, and the feeling is so slushy that you don't even notice it > shifting. On a bike I want to be in the gear I want to be in. Even with my > abysmal commute I still drive a standard because I want to be in control. > Everytime I rent a car it's an automatic, and they drive me insane. Barely > press the gas while cruising and it downshifts and guns the RPMs and makes an > ass of itself. So then I put it in the "manual mode" to keep it from hunting > through the gears. You forget it's there, come to a stop, it downshifts to > 1st without telling you, but then holds the gear until you frantically slap > it up a gear or back into auto. What a PiTA. I'll stick with my manual and > clutch, on both 4 and 2 wheels thank you very much. > > I agree with Javier and Kurt that CVTs make more sense in some applications, > like a bus or even a scooter, and I can appreciate the engineering that goes > into one, but just don't have room for one in my world. > > -Kyle > > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with you Joey. Back in Venezuela I had a 78 bug and my commute > included a 11 km uphill on the mountains that sometimes could be > bumper-to-bumper. I was miserable with the damn clutch on that car. Yet I > always said I would never drive automatic. Now that I my passion is on > motorcycles, car is just a mere transportation mechanism so I don't really > care much about the transmission. However, my mind can not comprehend how > somebody can buy a muscle sports car with automatic transmission. That really > makes no sense. > > Javier. > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote: > I think with the drive towards performance, efficiency, we > occasionally lose the feeling of the driver actually doing something - > using something besides brakes to slow for instance - that are so much > a part of a traditional driving experience. > The first thing I thought when I got in my GF's car - wow > - I miss having a stick shift. > When I got into heavy traffic - my next thought was, > where is my automatic - I'm going to fry this clutch. > I think that I as well as many people here prefer the > experience of shifting, paying attention to the vehicle - but for > certain circumstances, like Kyle's Houston morning commute, a manual > will wear out your left foot or left hand quite quickly. > Just a couple thoughts. > -Joey > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> wrote: > > The other reason for automatics (dct/cvt and the like) is actually > > performance. You cannot buy a manual transmission supercar anymore. Rarely > > are racing cars manual. DCT automatics shift faster, and CVTs allow you to > > literally STAY at torque or power peak while you accelerate. > > > > Doesn't mean I want either one. I'd love a strong CVT tow rig or hypermiling > > car, but I want a bike I can still shift. > > > > Kurt > > > > > > On Aug 22, 2012 10:49 AM, "Javier Garcia" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I have never driven a CVT car, but from what i read it makes more sense > >> than the traditional automatic transmission. I wouldn't like to have > >> neither > >> on a bike. > >> > >> Javier. > >> > >> On Aug 22, 2012 8:14 AM, "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> I dislike the CVT in my wife's car, there is no way I'd want one on a > >>> bike. CVT==Boring > >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >>> ________________________________ > >>> From: Javier Garcia <[email protected]> > >>> Sender: [email protected] > >>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:00:03 -0400 > >>> To: <[email protected]> > >>> ReplyTo: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Did someone say Diesel Adventure bikes > >>> > >>> I like the design of the one on the MCN report. Really good looking. It > >>> seems it was a mistake to go for the CVT. I still can't understand why > >>> still > >>> there are people trying to go to automatic transmission on bikes. Honda is > >>> pushing this dual clutch thing on few models, and I think Yamaha is doing > >>> the same. > >>> > >>> Javier. > >>> > >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Unfortunately no ride report for the HDT bike but 89 MPG and can do 90 > >>>> MPH isn't bad despite only 33 HP and 38 FT/LBS. > >>>> The MCN report was not favorable at all for the european bike. > >>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> From: Hawaii Sean <[email protected]> > >>>> Sender: [email protected] > >>>> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:49:38 -0700 (PDT) > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > >>>> ReplyTo: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Did someone say Diesel Adventure bikes > >>>> > >>>> Check out the links: > >>>> > >>>> http://www.adventuremotorcycle.com/issues/Sample/files/assets/downloads/page0006.pdf > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/First-rides-tests/2009/June/jun0409-diesel-motorcycle-review/ > >>>> > >>>> http://dieselmotorcycles.com/company.html > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit > >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/QKnGBzmESwkJ. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> [email protected]. > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> [email protected]. > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > -- > -Joey Kelley > JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! > JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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