On Apr 17, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Jaysen wrote:

> So if you do "enforce integrity" please give some of us the ability to
> ignore integrity to some extent.



I started using MW pre 1.0 because it was great then.  Downloading  
didn't exist yet, so now it's fabulous.

Right from the get-go I used only moneyflows for keeping track of  
spending and making sure I had funds allocated for upcoming expenses.  
Plain and simple, my buckets told me all I needed to know.  I never  
looked at my checking account balance because it told me nothing.  Oh  
sure, it told me what my bank balance was at any point in time  
according to all my manual entries, but that didn't mean anything  
either since there were never ending delays as to when any transaction  
might show up at the bank.

OK, so now we have downloading capabilities,  Now I don't have to do  
hardly any manual entries.  Plus downloading automatically updates my  
checking account balance, almost.  New transactions that show up at  
the bank that day are listed under Pending.  They don't get finalized  
at the bank until the next business day.  So even though the bank may  
show it to be pending, those transactions aren't available for  
downloading until the next business day.  So right there that means my  
buckets and what MW shows as a balance in my checking account isn't  
real.  So what's the point of constantly trying to verify my buckets  
against my account?

I do not use MW to spend time constantly worrying whether my  
moneyflows are accurate.  When I move money from one bucket to  
another, I have to take it on faith that Kevin doesn't sneak in some  
vicious code to screw his customers.  Either adding and subtracting  
works in MW or it doesn't.  If it doesn't,  then I can never trust MW  
to be accurate, so I'd stop using it because it's crap.  Well, I'm  
still using it.

Even if, somehow, my moneyflows became totally useless at any point in  
time, I can always restart at the beginning the current month with a  
clean slate.  That's the only time I have to make sure my buckets  
equal my bank balance.

I use MW to keep track of the accounting for three businesses, mine  
and two for my son.  MW is a dream machine for business accounting,  
even though Kevin didn't design it for that.  But the moneyflow  
feature is the reason I bought MoneyWell instead of any of the other  
Mac accounting apps, and I tried a few of them.  All the other non- 
envelope method apps are backward looking, showing me where I've been.  
All the other envelope method apps I used were just too darn  
complicated and confusing.  I was constantly wondering where I stood  
because the User Interfaces were so unfriendly.  As far as I'm  
concerned, Kevin has nailed it: simple, elegant, and down right easy  
on the brain.

I do screen all downloaded transactions.  I also attach scanned  
receipts to all expense transactions that are random, non-recurring.   
Bank transactions are handled by the bank, and MW provides me a copy  
in the transaction registers for my records.  I don't worry about that  
part unless an error shows up.    Bottom line, I don't concern myself  
very much with the banking part, that's past history. My daily concern  
is moneyflow and what's coming up.  I trust MoneyWell for that part of  
business finances.



Terry Norton

I started off with nothing...I still have most of it left.





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