i'm following this whole diskussion for few days now and the only thing i can think about it is:
omg what have you done, node community!? This whole thing gone so crazy and so sad. First of all its a multiple communication fail. It's ok to reject a commit for thatever reasons it might have been there. if the reasons are not that good, then the core team, or at least Isaac and Ben, should have talked on that issue FIRST, before pulling or rejecting finally. Not in public but on a internal channel. This could have saved the revert commit and following flames. Even more, before Ben reverted the merge, he should have talked with Isaac about it FIRST. Second desaster resulted from the overly heavy reactions on github and here of several ppl, who are ocnsidered to be community leaders due to their merits or vocal presence. I don't blame anyone for having strong opinions and positions, but they should have know what would happen if they express them in such delicate matter in public, instead of going in private channels FIRST. Whom of you, who constantly blame HackerNews and Reddit for its flame potential, acted exactly the same way on this public channels. Third: What the hell is this Joyent guy thinking? Why is he even in an executive of company which wanna be an enterprise level serviceprovider. This blogpost, on the corporate blog, was a NO GO. If i would be part of Joyent advisory board, i would fire him. 3 times. Because he's damaging the company. beside that, i don't belive a foundation stewardship would have prevented this whole desaster. Forth: I don't know if Bens retirement is confirmed by him. The official blogpost and this thread may be published way too early. Fith: I wish, everyone in this conversion would disclose his/hers relationships and interessts. i.E. first i heard about StrongLoop it looked like a promissing turn to mature the Node eosystem and make it ready for enterprize level consulting buisiness. But the more i saw and read, the more i become uncomfortable. this strong advertisements attitude (no pun intended) here in the list. Now i hear that they battle Joyent for power over node. What? I understand why ppl calling for a foundation, but this would not end struggles for power, it would just instutitionalize it in to a commitee. But it would be healthy for node and the community, if there is clear who is saying/doing for what reason. Nothing wrong with making money, but i think it's wrong to manipulate a community for that reason. Every company playing the node game should be PART of the community, not a puppet master. and at the end, currently this comminty creates biggest damage to itself and node since, i don't know, like ever. Because it looks like every one has an opinion to express. i understand that. i also have one. but the tone does the music. So i have a proposal too. Joyent is stewarding Node, and they did a great job so far. But i think we've come to a point at which it could be good for us and for joyent to install a controlling board. something like an advisory board elected by the community. they would have a veto rights on strategic decisions regarding node.js future and provide a moderator service to the comunity in conflict cases. this is kind of a compromise between a non-profid foundation and a profit company stewardship. -- -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
