Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2013 13:16:35 UTC+1 schrieb Alex Kocharin: > > > > On Friday, December 6, 2013 12:48:06 PM UTC+4, greelgorke wrote: > >> >> Second desaster resulted from the overly heavy reactions on github and >> here of several ppl, who are ocnsidered to be community leaders due to >> their merits or vocal presence. >> > > Who are you talking about? I don't see any heavy reactions from anyone I > know for their node.js-related work. Pull request trolls ain't the > community. > i have gh comments in mind, and them are not from trolls. anyway i don't want to call names here, because it might just cause more damage. may be this comments were not as heavy as i feel about them, but if i feel offended, certainly others do too.
> > >> >> Third: What the hell is this Joyent guy thinking? Why is he even in an >> executive of company which wanna be an enterprise level serviceprovider. >> This blogpost, on the corporate blog, was a NO GO. If i would be part of >> Joyent advisory board, i would fire him. 3 times. Because he's damaging the >> company. >> > > He is not damaging the company. He is damaging node.js core trying to save > company's image. I agree about firing 3 times though. > then he damaged both. We cannot deny that all the foundation discussione wouldnt be such an issue without this corporate-like statement, right? :) > > Fith: I wish, everyone in this conversion would disclose his/hers >> relationships and interessts. i.E. first i heard about StrongLoop it looked >> like a promissing turn to mature the Node eosystem and make it ready for >> enterprize level consulting buisiness. But the more i saw and read, the >> more i become uncomfortable. this strong advertisements attitude (no pun >> intended) here in the list. Now i hear that they battle Joyent for power >> over node. What? I understand why ppl calling for a foundation, but this >> would not end struggles for power, it would just instutitionalize it in to >> a commitee. >> > > I'm a tiny bit of a core developer from the times when core was kinda > awful, currently working a lot on node.js modules. Have deep respect for > all node.js maintainers (including Ryan, and including Ben), one of them > even made me change codestyle with a certain open letter, huh. Know nobody > personally though. Not affiliated with any company who is making business > around commercial node.js support. Had a good opinion about Joyent because > they didn't interfere with node in the past, although that opinion is now > changed. > > Interests are: to see node.js core developing as fast and good as it was 2 > weeks ago, and prevent similar things in the future as much as possible. > > The StrongLoop's battle is a battle over trademarks right now. It is > perfectly reasonable request from their position, that said, I don't care > about legal stuff much. > i think we should care about. because in a battle there is damage produced, and at the end, we, the parts of the community without such strong monetasation interessts may be the ones who loose. > > So i have a proposal too. Joyent is stewarding Node, and they did a great >> job so far. But i think we've come to a point at which it could be good for >> us and for joyent to install a controlling board. something like an >> advisory board elected by the community. they would have a veto rights on >> strategic decisions regarding node.js future and provide a moderator >> service to the comunity in conflict cases. this is kind of a compromise >> between a non-profid foundation and a profit company stewardship. >> > > And how that controlling board is supposed to influence certain offensive > blog posts from certain companies?. > that is a question of negotiation. who is in it, what can they do etc. i think about an aggreement, but i'm not sure about it. if i see it right, most of the boig players in this game are from US. dunno what goes there. -- -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
