Alan responded to Minoru:
> 
> Ah yes, I see exactly what you mean. The world economy is probably in for a
> rough stretch for a while.
> 
> I think the question here is "how bad will it be and long will it last?" 
> 
> There have been worldwide recessions before and we have always come out of
> them, but not without suffering and not always quickly.
>

Aren't you assuming what needs to be shown, namely that this is a run of the 
mill "worldwide recession"?

Most experts disagree, and the ones who predicted this crisis (and there were 
many, across the political spectrum) disagree the most vehemently. The evidence 
is fairly overwhelming (as I myself stated/predicted here almost one year ago, 
after the collapse of Bear Stearns but long before the events of September) 
that the current crisis is an epochal event, and represents the final 
unraveling of the new set of economic rules and relationships, domestic and 
international, established during the Reagan years. (I recall also railing back 
then about the blind greed of the folks on Wall Street, comments that have been 
proven true again and again in the last 10 months, even if I do say so myself; 
the latest evidence of that this week was the $18 billion in "bonuses" for Wall 
Street paper pushers whose firms are largely on life support courtesy of the US 
taxpayer.)

This is not just an ordinary downturn; it is a financial collapse unlike 
anything seen since the 1930s. Even Alan Greenspan, the acolyte of Ayn Rand and 
Pontifex Maximus of laissez-faire, has concurred with this judgment. And there 
is no going back to what existed up to 2006. There is going to have to be a new 
set of international institutions and rules to cope with this mess, and the US 
economy is going to have be overhauled across the board as well (and that means 
every sector, from industry to services to finance, and the ridiculous trade 
deals that have exported millions of decent jobs overseas).

It will take at least 5 years, and perhaps over a decade, to clean this mess 
up, and when the job is done things are going to look very, very different in 
this country and abroad.


John M.




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