I AM going to do it, but the problem is that the guy wants me to be able
at ANYTIME to see if anyone changed their IP definitions and are working
on a different IP subnet (sometimes playing some games)

See my problem? If I could make a broadcast, and receive some
information about all systems on the network (they could answer also
through a broadcast like in the DHCP process), it would make my day!!

Filipe Joel de Almeida
Network Consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mobile: +351 967819600
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bartolini
Sent: ter�a-feira, 23 de Abril de 2002 4:18
To: NT 2000 Discussions
Subject: Re: Network discovery

I know that feeling.
I did 1200 boxes in 4-days with 4 guys. That was a metro(MAN) that
involved
some driving... as well as...keeping up with the daily TECH work!
It left us DEAD-tired but we had a feeling of satisfaction and complete
data
on ALL the boxes.

Sometimes you just have to get up and.... GO GET IT... in order to be
sure!

David

----- Original Message -----
From: "Leonard Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT 2000 Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:53 PM
Subject: RE: Network discovery


> ...and even with a switch...how about those systems that are turned
off,
not
> on the network, or have badly configured network settings....won't
catch
> those.
>
> Do a physical inventory.  100 PC's in a factory...part-time 2 days a
> week...so what.  I did a physical inventory of 800 PC in a factory in
less
> then 3 days (a team of 3 guys)....so, with 100 PC...not a big job at
all.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anthony L.
> > Sollars
> > Sent: April 22, 2002 7:52 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Network discovery
> >
> >
> > There really isn't anything you can do about this man, the
> > only way you can
> > make this work would be to have switches in your network and
> > or ge the mac
> > address info from a the GW router, which you said isn't possible.
> >
> > I have an idea, call up a vendor and work out a deal on a
> > nice manageable
> > switch with a full set of snmp features. Get them to agree to
> > a short trial
> > period to see if the equipment works as promised. Use the
> > equipment long
> > enough to record the address info you need then ship it back.
> > I happen to
> > know DEll has a 30 day money back guarentee, and if you have
> > net-30 terms
> > this can be very easy to do. WE just did this with a 4 LTO drive
tape
> > library.
> >
> >
> > Well hope it all works out.
> >
> >
> > -TOny
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Filipe Joel de Almeida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 1:54 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Network discovery
> >
> >
> > Yeah, but don't forget the 'rogue' machines I'm trying to find out
> > provably don't have a default gateway configured.
> >
> > My current IP address is 192.168.69.111
> >
> > I have a machine connected to the same hub as I am, with the IP
> > 10.10.10.10 and no default gateway
> >
> > There's no way I can make LANGuard see that machine unless:
> >
> > 1- I have an IP of the same subnet
> > 2- I correctly configure TCP/IP on that machine.
> >
> > This totally defeats my purpose! I was thinking it was
> > possible to send
> > a broadcast and receiving information about all machines connected
to
> > the network, even if they had a different subnet and no gateway!
> >
> > Filipe Joel de Almeida
> > Network Consultant
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Mobile: +351 967819600
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of King, John
> > Sent: segunda-feira, 22 de Abril de 2002 21:14
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Network discovery
> >
> > I am not sure how Etherpeek works, but with a basic sniffer
> > you will see
> > an
> > IP address of some sort.  Which from what you said sounds
> > like what you
> > see.
> >
> >
> > Now for example, say that you see the IP address 192.168.1.127 in
your
> > sniffer program.
> >
> > Open LANguard or any other network scanner and for an address
> > range put
> > in
> > 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.254 ...  Get it?  Now the scanner
> > will scan all
> > of
> > the addresses in between and show you which ones are live..  Just
look
> > for
> > the first three numbers of the octet and put 1-254 at the end..
Does
> > that
> > help?  Maybe you already understood this..?  All that the sniffer
will
> > do is
> > point you in the proper direction, by showing you the 'active' IPs
on
> > your
> > network.  Then you have to scan the full subnet ranger with a
> > scanner to
> > find out what IPs are really being used..
> >
> > Good Luck
> >
> >    ~John
> >
> > ~~~Snort, sniffing packets not glue~~~
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Filipe Joel de Almeida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:06 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Network discovery
> >
> >
> > Well, with etherpeek I can only see information packet by packet,
and
> > nothing shows up on the nodes or protocols tab... any help on
> > how to use
> > all the data I have already captured to give me a list of all the IP
> > addresses?
> >
> > With Languard, it requires me to specify witch IP's to scan,
> > but I don't
> > know that!!
> >
> > Am I messing up somewhere?
> >
> > Filipe Joel de Almeida
> > Network Consultant
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Mobile: +351 967819600
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John
Allhiser
> > Sent: segunda-feira, 22 de Abril de 2002 20:41
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Network discovery
> >
> > Ahh.  You can let the sniffer run for a while.  This will let you
know
> > who is
> > doing what on your network.
> >
> > For a simple list of addresses, try a simple scanner:
> > http://www.gfi.com/lannetscan/index.htm
> >
> > This, of course depends on what hosts are running at the time.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Filipe Joel de Almeida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:42 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Network discovery
> >
> >
> > I've installed the demo version, and it allows me to see packet by
> > packet what's
> > the source address and the destination address, but it seems
> > there's no
> > way of
> > just getting a list of all the addresses.
> >
> > Filipe Joel de Almeida
> > Network Consultant
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Mobile: +351 967819600
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John
Allhiser
> > Sent: segunda-feira, 22 de Abril de 2002 19:13
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Network discovery
> >
> > Depending on the hardware you connect the sniffer to a mirrored or
> > spanned port.
> > the port effectively becomes a hub.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Filipe Joel de Almeida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 1:09 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Network discovery
> >
> >
> > Thanks, I'll look it out.
> >
> > What If I was connected by switches, what could I do to do this?
> >
> > Filipe Joel de Almeida
> > Network Consultant
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Mobile: +351 967819600
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John
Allhiser
> > Sent: segunda-feira, 22 de Abril de 2002 18:52
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Network discovery
> >
> > Yes.  Especially since you are connected by hubs.
> >
> > www.wildpackets.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Filipe Joel de Almeida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 1:01 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Network discovery
> >
> >
> > Is that software able to sniff my network and find all active IP
> > addresses in
> > any subnet? If so, where can I get it?
> >
> > Filipe Joel de Almeida
> > Network Consultant
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Mobile: +351 967819600
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John
Allhiser
> > Sent: segunda-feira, 22 de Abril de 2002 18:46
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Network discovery
> >
> > I use and like Wild Packets EtherPeek.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Filipe Joel de Almeida [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 12:50 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Network discovery
> >
> >
> > > If you network is as disastrous as it sounds, then you may not
know
> > what
> > > IP ranges are being used.  If that is the case maybe a TCP sniffer
> > could
> > > shed some light on what IPs are on the network.
> >
> > You are right! That is specifically what Is happening! Isn't there
any
> > good
> > sniffer that could tell me what IP's are running around on my
> > network? I
> > can't
> > seem to be able to make windump work!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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