Aside from MS Certs I don't think I have enough to make a decent portfolio and if I did I'd be a little hesitant to display it in this fashion. My intent is to sell myself as best as I can without any extra bells and whistles. I'm going to be as indepth as I need to be to explain something and if I have to stand on your desk and shake dance to how I'd resolve a particular issue then I'll do that, but that's it! I draw the line at keepsakes and memorabila like fancy binders with gold trim and them fancy letterz. :-)
On Jan 23, 2008 11:43 AM, MarvinC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd go the other way and wonder why you didn't take the time to place that > on the resume. Again you are here to sell yourself so why are you making me > pull this info from you? huh? WHY!?! :-) > This would then make me wonder if it's because you're not really skilled > in it or if it's not a primary skillset, etc. huh? WELL IS IT!?! :-| > The one thing I can say is that when you do get in front of the client > gather yourself and expand on what's in the resume. No dodging or tap > dancing. > > On Jan 23, 2008 10:41 AM, Joe Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I guess that you missed my post that said that my resume was just the > > "Table of Contents" to my portfolio that I've amassed over 15 years. > > > > > > > > And if you are wondering what I'm hiding, isn't that generating interest > > in your mind? Which is the point of a resume – generate enough interest to > > get in for an interview. From my experience with people, just the fact that > > I might be hiding something would be enough for some people to grant an > > interview, just to find out if I was hiding anything. > > > > > > > > People are interesting creatures. > > > > > > > > -Joe > > > > > > > > *From:* Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:30 AM > > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* Re: Tech Resume > > > > > > > > > > > > I've held one job in my entire career based on someone I knew... All > > others have been via the three things you mention below using a 2-3 page > > resume... > > > > > > > > Recruiters can and will look out for your interests if you have > > perceived value (the more experience you have, the more you're worth, the > > more they get paid to place you) though I have only used them twice. > > However, that's not to say I haven't hired based on networking because I > > have numerous times. > > > > > > > > There is no science... It's all about catching ones attention with the > > resume and getting that first interview and selling yourself... And a 1 > > pager with 15 years experience... All that will do is make me ask myself > > what you are hiding... > > > > On Jan 23, 2008 7:23 AM, Joe Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > 75% of all jobs obtained are not obtained through classifieds, job > > search engines, or recruiters. They are obtained my networking. > > > > > > > > Most of the time it's about who you know, and more importantly, who they > > know. > > > > > > > > I've done some extensive networking in the past and it has really paid > > off for me. I really don't like using recruiters, as they aren't looking > > out for my interests, but just their commission from putting someone in a > > position. > > > > > > > > Just my $0.02 > > > > > > > > -Joe > > > > > > > > *From:* MarvinC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:53 AM > > > > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > > > *Subject:* Re: Tech Resume > > > > > > > > > > > > I've never heard of a 1 page technical resume but I guess it all > > depends. I don't see how that can be effective with the way recruiters scan > > and process resumes. I've found over the years that most of the > > recruiters don't even read the resume and instead scan it based on the buzz > > words specified by the client. They then call you up and ask you questions > > that they may have found had they simply read the resume. From here a > > determination is made on whether your info is forwarded to the client. So I > > say instead of limiting yourself, sell yourself because in the end all the > > recruiter is trying to do is line up as many cadidates that are necessary to > > grab that business. There's no such thing as "the perfect resume". You may > > get lucky and run into a batch of recruiters that know what you want but > > again why limit yourself. Just be conservative about how you describe your > > skillsets and experiences. I've found that bullet points are a lot more > > effective than sentences that run long when trying to explain a project or > > task. In the end it comes down to your own judgement and how much info > > you're trying to publish. > > > > I say treat yourself like a hot porche in a classified ad containing 100 > > other porches. > > > > > > > > hth > > > > On Jan 23, 2008 9:01 AM, Mike Semon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Different employers and recruiters have different preferences for type > > and > > format of resume. I sat down with a technical recruiter, who is a friend > > of > > mine, who helped me craft mine. It is worth the time to have a > > professional > > look at your resume and give guidance. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:52 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Tech Resume > > > > I guess that's because I'm not using a hybrid or chronological resume, > > but > > rather a functional resume. I don't list specific job experience, but > > rather the skills that I've used on those jobs in the last 15 years. > > > > -Joe > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mike Semon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:47 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Tech Resume > > > > I agree with most things you have said except the one page resume. The > > recruiters that I have spoken with say it is ok to use 2-3 pages if you > > have the experience. You don't want your resume to be a novel, however, > > you don't want to exclude relevant experience. I have 12 yrs exp and > > there is no way I can cover that in 1 page. > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joe Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:33 AM > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Tech Resume > > > > Joseph: > > > > Resumes, even in a tech field, should be limited to 1 page in this day > > and > > age. > > > > Bullet points take up valuable page real estate, where you could be > > listing > > KSA's (Knowledge, Skills(both technical and transferrable), and > > Attributes). > > > > And for the love of <Deity> don't put "References will be provided upon > > request." Of course a potential employer will request references prior > > to > > an interview, no need to waste important space on the paper. > > > > One more resume killer - templates. Don't use them. Spend some time on > > crafting your resume. Potential employers can tell the difference. > > They > > have a tendency to pass by the template resumes. > > > > Also, if you are anything like me, and already in a career, and know > > what > > direction it is going in, there is no need for a Career Objective, that > > can > > be replaced with a Summary of Qualifications. > > > > If you'd like, I can send a copy of my resume (which in my current > > Portfolio > > and Professional Procedures class netted me a grade of a 100 and 5 > > interviews thus far) to you offline. > > > > > > Joe Fox > > Systems Administrator > > > > The McGuire Group > > Office# (716) 826-2010 ext: 1172 > > Mobile# (716) 846-9308 > > > > The materials in this e-mail are private and may contain Protected > > Health > > Information. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that any > > unauthorized use, disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any > > action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly > > prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately > > > > notify the sender via telephone at 716-829-1978 or by return e-mail. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:46 PM > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Tech Resume > > > > Hey marvin, > > > > If you don't mind could you forward me a copy offline too? > > > > Thanks.. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "MarvinC" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]> > > Sent: 1/22/08 6:39 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Tech Resume > > > > Bullet points! > > I'll be more than happy to send over a copy of mine as an example. It's > > kinda long because I try to force the recruiters to read it but they > > don't > > so I just fill it with buzz words which is all they scan on. > > > > > > > > On Jan 22, 2008 6:32 PM, Joseph L. Casale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I've been saying I need a new job for so long now, I don't believe > > myself > > > anymore... I am in a unique environment that's just truly bad for my > > career > > > and I need to make a change. For the last ~13 years, I have been in > > the > > tech > > > field and want to up the ante and get out of the small business arena, > > so > > I > > > am looking online for resume examples and could use a pointer. I've > > only > > had > > > two jobs in all that time and neither needed a resume so needless to > > say, > > > I'm starting from scratch! > > > > > > > > > > > > Any pointers would be most appreciated! > > > jlc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm > ~ > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm > ~ > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm > ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm > ~ > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm > ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ > > ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm > ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~
