But they host those updates on a fat pipe. We can download updates from apple at about 100MB a minute.

And I really don't understand how supporting a few Macs in your AD domain is really trouble. If you had a few hundred and you really needed to really "manage" them, that might be an issue.

Ken Schaefer wrote:
That's always been an issue. I have two Macs personally. The Mac Mini required 
about 700MB in updates when I brought it home from the shop. And that was two 
years ago. Nothing has changed - you still need to install hundreds of MB of 
patches every month or two.  Macs have some good features, but I always laugh 
at Mac users who say that Windows users have to download so many patches.

Cheers
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 3:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac on 2003 Domain

I almost hate to say this, but the current line of Mac products rocks.
But I did laugh about the updates. I thought bringing in a new Windows
machine was bad. I plugged in a brand new Mac with OSx 10.5 and had to
download close to 500 MB in updates.

-----Original Message-----
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain

Ahh good to know!  I'm certainly not cutting edge on my Mac
integrations here.  Luckily I only have two Mac-based designers to
support.

I'm glad to hear that things have become more native.

One thing to concider though is that one of the Thursby tools allows
you to apply policy settings to Macs.


On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Martin Blackstone
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I just got my first Mac of my own.
AD integration on a Mac is a piece of cake and you don't need any
third
party software to do it.
Entourage 2008 is a big step forward from previous versions and seems
to
pretty much give you most of the same functionality of Outlook. Not
all,
but
good enough. No more IMAP crap.
On a side note we have a number of Macs here and most of the people
who
have
them dual boot to Windows for Outlook and Office just cause they like
it
better.

-----Original Message-----
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mac on 2003 Domain

It's a trap!

But seriously, you might want to look into the software the Thursby
Software puts out.  It can make AD intergration a no brainer.

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 12:04 PM, David Mazzaccaro
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Looks like we will be hiring a marketing person who wants to use a
Mac.
We have a 2003 domain w/ Exchange 2003 and XP pro clients and I have
zero
experience w/ Macs.
Can I have a Mac on the network and use Outlook to connect to
Exchange?
What about file sharing, etc?
Where should I start to get prepared?
Thanks.


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